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re: USC's Pat Haden, citing gay son, won't attend meeting in Indiana
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:06 pm to dawgfan24348
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:06 pm to dawgfan24348
Go read the law. Not the la or ny times interpretation. You are sadly missing the point. It doesn't give me any more right to discriminate. Read it
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:07 pm to tylercsbn9
quote:
Wtf are customer rights? The right to force someone to serve you through threat of jail or fines? Where are these "customer rights" defined?
This.
I weep for the useful idiots in this country.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:07 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:
If you're a big enough a-hole to refuse service to someone who shares different beliefs then maybe you shouldn't have opened shop
Maybe you should get fricked. It's a private business on private property and as such they can do with it what they damn well please. frick your personal opinions and feelings on the situation.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:07 pm to Sentrius
There is trouble in the forest
And the creatures all have fled
As the maples scream 'Oppression!'
And the oaks just shake their heads
So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights
'The oaks are just too greedy
We will make them give us light'
Now there's no more oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe and saw
And the creatures all have fled
As the maples scream 'Oppression!'
And the oaks just shake their heads
So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights
'The oaks are just too greedy
We will make them give us light'
Now there's no more oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe and saw
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:08 pm to Superior Pariah
quote:
I'm sure his son also enjoys taking fat white loads to the face. Hell, I bet sometimes after he gets an anal creampie his partner slurps it out.
Thanks for sharing your intimate sexual fantasies with the board.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:09 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:
Pretty sure that was outlawed a long time ago
Section 2 of the 1964 CRA that deals with "public accommodations" - private businesses open to the public is what I have a problem with. It's big violation of a principle that built western society and kept it strong and that's a the right to private property and your labor.
Now, the rest of the CRA is absolutely spot on in that it deals with public entities as public actors carrying out the role of the state using tax dollars are not allowed to discriminate. I'll even go as far to say that the CRA of 1964, in practice, has been a tremendously positive piece of legislation. It just violates some fundamental rights we are supposed to hold sacred including private property. Particularly so with section 2.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:10 pm to Speys and Tays
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No shoes no shirt no service as cliched as it is speaks more to the rights of private business to do business with whom they wish
Yep and I think everyone backs the business on this one. However if they refuse to serve someone that is transgender there will be hell to pay. Tolerance only when someone agrees with them.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:10 pm to IT_Dawg
quote:When you bring religion into it, yes it does
It doesn't give me any more right to discriminate.
quote:
You are sadly missing the point
What point? All I see that it's now legal to be a bigoted dick with the power to discriminate anyone
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:11 pm to tylercsbn9
quote:
Wtf are customer rights? The right to force someone to serve you through threat of jail or fines? Where are these "customer rights" defined?
This is literally the first time I've heard of customer rights.
Says a lot about who I'm debating with.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:11 pm to tylercsbn9
quote:
The only lulz is the magnitude of this dumbass parallel
Do you even Padilla bruh? You can set the precedent and allow the the ruling ideology to discriminate against whoever, but when the new ideology uses the previously set stupid precedent, shite will hit the fan.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:11 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:
What point? All I see that it's now legal to be a bigoted dick with the power to discriminate anyone
Everyone is a "bigoted dick."
Everyone discriminates. Even you.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:11 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:
? All I see that it's now legal to be a bigoted dick with the power to discriminate anyone
Oh the horror!
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:12 pm to Sentrius
quote:
This is literally the first time I've heard of customer rights.
bro, do you even Ralph Nader?
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:12 pm to RedRifle
quote:
The Blowback from this law has been stunning
Is that code for "hissy fit"?
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:14 pm to tigerpimpbot
We aren't going to lose gas rights from the Middle East because of some precedent set in Indiana and a few other states.
If you really believe that than Allah help you.
If you really believe that than Allah help you.
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:15 pm to 777Tiger
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bro, do you even Ralph Nader?
He was such a big gov't loon that was so loony that he's just a blank spot in my mind and I can't access his loony ideals. You could call it white noise I guess.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:16 pm to member12
quote:
The Blowback from this law has been stunning
Is that code for "hissy fit"?
This may be the most overreaction I've ever seen. I mean, there are people dying, being beaten, hungry yet we're worried some gay couple can't get cupcakes.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:16 pm to Sentrius
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You could call it white noise I guess.
racist
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:17 pm to RedRifle
Don't really have a problem with Haden speaking his mind and making a stand on this issue.
From a financial angle, I think it's pretty stupid for the state of Indiana to pull this stunt. Especially in the political climate we live today. We'll see how far so industries are willing to back off from dealing with the state of IN.
From a financial angle, I think it's pretty stupid for the state of Indiana to pull this stunt. Especially in the political climate we live today. We'll see how far so industries are willing to back off from dealing with the state of IN.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:17 pm to tylercsbn9
quote:
We aren't going to lose gas rights from the Middle East because of some precedent set in Indiana and a few other states
Ok, I'm not arguing that specific point. My point is a wider view of the laws of the U.S. Permitting one group by law to discriminate against another opens a can of worms that myopic fools (anti gay christians) don't ever recognize. The power is in the precedent, not the specific law.
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