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re: Legislative session starts April 13. People who love LSU need to pay attention.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:07 am to Slippy
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:07 am to Slippy
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Legislative session starts April 13.
Ah, the annual "Let's Come with as Many Stupid Laws as Possible and see what Sticks, so the People of Louisiana think we are Actually Working."
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:08 am to Slippy
Sorry Slippy, but I simply disagree. I was there during Emmerts "Master Plan" bullshite. I watched LSU gut its corps of real educators all in the name of research. I went from having professors teaching classes to T/As and the occasional drop in by a PHd. In CM, we went from having professors that actually had been in the damn industry to PHds in IE who had never built a swingset, let alone buildings, all in the name of "Research". (Thankfully, this has been corrected.) I paid attention to the endless list of fees, cost, etc that increased during my time there.
Having done work at other schools, I can wholeheartedly assure you that LSU enjoys a far higher standard than the other schools. But you don't hear their presidents writing letters about shutting down the school and cancelling football season. Everyone in this state is affected by the economy, I know I have been. Why should LSU be exempt from this as well?
Having done work at other schools, I can wholeheartedly assure you that LSU enjoys a far higher standard than the other schools. But you don't hear their presidents writing letters about shutting down the school and cancelling football season. Everyone in this state is affected by the economy, I know I have been. Why should LSU be exempt from this as well?
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:09 am to Slippy
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Do you people really believe that we should operate our flagship university like a no-frills airline? Is that what you want for your school? If you believe that "LSU's budget is so bloated with bullshite" you are deluded. It has already been cut to the bone, and I invite you to compare LSU's budget with that of its SEC peers. While higher education is in trouble nationally, nobody -- NOBODY -- has had to endure the economic gutting that LSU has under Jindal.
LSU's budget relies more on state funding than other states. LSU's student loan debt is averaging around 14K which is half the average student loan debt. If Jindal's cuts actually occur and LSU decides not to cut anything and raise fees to cover the cost, it would increase the cost of each student by $3200/yr or $14,400 for 4.5 years college career. That puts LSU on par with other public schools in the country.
I am actually buying into the idea that the state funding needs to be cut and LSU needs to rely on self-generated money. That would provide more stable funding mechanisms and allow it improve without worrying about the turmoir going on in the capital.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:09 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
I've had dealing with the finance office at LSU regarding some fiscal matters. The people in that department are awful. Would be better run by a bunch of folks with degrees from The University of Phoenix, DeVry, ITT, or any other school. Dipshits deserve it since they can't manage their own money.
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:09 am to Slippy
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:10 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
1) reorganize education by shutting down and redesignation.
2) incentivize proper allocation of funds and spending, make audits actually matter.
3) constitutionally change what the GOV can cut
2) incentivize proper allocation of funds and spending, make audits actually matter.
3) constitutionally change what the GOV can cut
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:11 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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o be honest, one of the first things they need to take up this session is to change the state constitution that will allow the governor to cut other public servies outside of higher education and health care.
They need to eliminate the provision that allows certain programs to be untouchable. Education and healthcare are basically the only ones the politicians don't use to earmark.
And hey, I'm all for taking a hard look at the state's use as well. And I fully agree we need to stop dumping money into dumpster fires like SUNO and its 4% graduation rate.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:13 am to WeeWee
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I am actually buying into the idea that the state funding needs to be cut and LSU needs to rely on self-generated money. That would provide more stable funding mechanisms and allow it improve without worrying about the turmoir going on in the capital.
I could support this. It would sort of force the schools to be a little more competitive for students as well.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:13 am to elprez00
BobbyJ gonna cut the fat 
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:14 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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To be honest, one of the first things they need to take up this session is to change the state constitution that will allow the governor to cut other public servies outside of higher education and health care.
This.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:33 am to Antonio Moss
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To be honest, one of the first things they need to take up this session is to change the state constitution that will allow the governor to cut other public servies outside of higher education and health care.
This is more of an issue than "cutting the fat" at LSU what little actually remains.
State retirement plans need to be re-structured. A state agency I worked for briefly had 30% salary match for their employees.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:41 am to Slippy
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they have no idea what is really happening.
No, they've known all along what is happening. The prestige of their positions is more important than the future of LSU to them. Plus they know if they squeak they'll get Teagued.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:41 am to WeeWee
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it would increase the cost of each student by $3200/yr or $14,400 for 4.5 years college career. That puts LSU on par with other public schools in the country.
This will never happen as long as the legislature maintains its control over tuition. They are unable or unwilling to fund higher ed on the one hand, and unwilling to allow schools to raise tuition on the other.
Your plan goes nowhere as long as politicians are in charge.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:43 am to Commandeaux
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I'm not talking about just schools. I'm talking about the whole budget deficit. We will need to raise taxes to get us out of this hole. Jindal has cut just about everything he could cut to keep the state government moving. The next governor has to bring revenue increases to the table. I just read an article stating Louisiana doesn't have enough money to pay for the presidential primaries next year.
complete liberal tool. how about we stop using temporary windfalls to "balance" our budget and start actually cutting spending on unnecessary stuff. Also, since when is it the responsibility of those who are not/ have not/ will not attend an educational institution to pay for said institution? If the school needs more money, and the state has cut the "free public" money, raise tuition on those who are actually using the facilities! It is NOT a right to go to college. not everyone should go, and surely not everyone else should pay for everyone to go
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:43 am to Slippy
Losing 10% of funding OMG
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:49 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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To be honest, one of the first things they need to take up this session is to change the state constitution that will allow the governor to cut other public servies outside of higher education and health care. It's stupid to me that those are the only two areas the governor is allow to touch during times of hardship. All services using public funds should be at the governor's disposal.
Agreed. While I don't agree that Jindal has handled this well, the legislature and those who have elected them for the last 40 years share a great deal of blame as well.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:51 am to jimbeam
Colleges and Universities have already been cut by $700 million over Jindal's terms. This is simply the latest cut.
Gotta love it when those who have already obtained their publicly subsidized education jump on the bandwagon to eliminate it for future students.
Gotta love it when those who have already obtained their publicly subsidized education jump on the bandwagon to eliminate it for future students.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:51 am to Mung
I'm still in school....
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:52 am to pointdog33
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This is more of an issue than "cutting the fat" at LSU what little actually remains.
LSU still has english classes, so there's still more fat that needs to be cut off
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:52 am to Quatre Pot
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Also, since when is it the responsibility of those who are not/ have not/ will not attend an educational institution to pay for said institution?
Wow
I live in Central. My wife and I have been married for 8 years. We decided after we got married that we dont want kids. About 5 years ago, Central proposed a $54 million tax increase to pay for their schools. My wife and I voted for it even though we will never have kids. New schools in Central will benefit everyone living in Central. Having schools that a lot of people want to send their kids means more people who want to live in Central which increases my property value. So everyone wins in the end. But you're too dumb to see the end result.
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