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looking at building a house in a flood zone

Posted on 3/30/15 at 3:39 pm
Posted by mandevilletiger34
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 3:39 pm
I am looking at building a house in a flood zone: VE

What would be a rough estimate for yearly cost?

near lakefront in mandeville
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 3:49 pm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 3:40 pm to
how about you tell us where?
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 3:41 pm to
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building a house in a blood zone
Sounds dangerous
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 3:43 pm to
Good luck selling it in the future
Posted by SaltyMcKracker
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by Phil A Sheo
equinsu ocha
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

blood zone: VE


ummmmm....
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
7821 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 3:47 pm to
My as bad as you'd think. The gun-ament subsidizes the insurance rates so it's still affordable.
Posted by RebelOP
Misty Mountain Top
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 3:52 pm to
Build a houseboat, just in case.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

I am looking at building a house in a flood zone: VE

What would be a rough estimate for yearly cost?


yo brah its all about the elevation of your designed home
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 3:59 pm to
Pilings
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:01 pm to
da longer da pilings the smaller dat premiums.
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:02 pm to
Find out what the base flood elevation is, and build at a higher elevation than that. Could be as cheap as $200/yr
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
27678 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:02 pm to
Find out what the base flood elevation is, and build at a higher elevation than that. Could be as cheap as $200/yr
Posted by SetTheMood
The Red Stick
Member since Jul 2012
3182 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:04 pm to
I built in an AE, and our premium for the maximum amount under the federal program is roughly $600 a year. Keep in mind it only insures up to around $210K of the value of your property.

You can always LOMA or LOMR it if your property meets the requirements.
Posted by 4WHLN
Drinking at the Cottage Inn
Member since Mar 2013
7579 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:04 pm to
My parents live 3 blocks off the lakefront in Mandeville and they pay $400 a year.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:04 pm to
So here's the deal. If you want to build in a flood zone, just budget enough cash to build up enough of a dirt pad on your lot so that your slab-and the surrounding ground (including the pad for your HVAC) is elevated anywhere from 6 inches to a foot above what's known as the Base Flood Elavation.

You can easily work on this with your builder/GC and the Engineering Firm that comes out to "shoot" your elevation.

Once this is done and your home has as a CO, you can submit for a LOMA through FEMA. A LOMA stands for a Letter of Map Amendment that states that based on the amount of dirt you brought in and the subsequent raised level of your home, that you're no longer in danger of flooding based on the BFE (Base Flood Elevation).

This is simple and is done routinely. Just make sure you follow up with your contractor. It's easy to "tell" a homeowner you brought in dirt and then say, "oops...oh well I'll pay for the policy for two years," or some BS like that. The devil in those details is that their builder's risk policy is super low compared to an actual homeowner's flood risk policy, and you may have trouble filing a claim if you actually do flood. Even if you don't flood, when its time to cover your home after he's done, that sticker shock will be EYE OPENING.

So build in wording into the contract with the GC that puts teeth into the fact that you want dirt and the slab built up ABOVE BFE a minimum of 6 inches to a foot*

*-I suggest six inches to a foot because every few years or so, the maps are updated. When that occurs, the adjustments usually occur in 6 inch to 1 foot increments. Meaning if they adjust up, you may still be above the adjusted BFE.

But don't let your GC BS his way around bringing in dirt. Don't be afraid to use an Engineering firm he has no relationship with. One hand might wash the other if they have a pre-existing understanding. For those that act like it doesn't happen, think again. I've seen it.

Last but not least, it should be part of Parish Building Codes that homes cannot be built below BFE these days anyways. Build up anyway so you can get out of the flood zone, get your LOMA and avoid flood insurance.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 4:06 pm
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

Good luck selling it in the future



Met a guy one time whose flood insurance was more than the mortgage would be on the house. He has been trying to sell the place for 5 years now.
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

Last but not least, it should be part of Parish Building Codes that homes cannot be built below BFE these days anyways.



It is. You have to get elevation markers done and your slab better be above that elevation or you will not get a permit to continue.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

stout
quote:

Met a guy one time whose flood insurance was more than the mortgage would be on the house. He has been trying to sell the place for 5 years now.


Has he actually had it flood at all? There are FedGov grant programs available that will actually jack both concrete and pier-and-beam homes up above BFE and usually only cost a 10% homeowner match. He should really try and work with his local Parish Government on that. If the cost to insure is really that high there are remedies.

It's a situation where it may take money (to elevate) in order to make money (by selling).
Posted by FishinTygah84
LA
Member since Dec 2013
1975 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 4:12 pm to
Ours was initially going to run 4600/yr. yes, 4600 per year! We got a flood elevation reading and our house was 5.5 ft above flood plain. we raised our AC unit and now we only pay 280/yr. i would get a flood elevation reading done to see where you fall and build above that flood plain.
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