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re: Why does KRob even play

Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:07 pm to
So 25 ABs doesn't matter, but 18 does? Okay. Just stop.

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What is the reason Krob is a better hitter?
He gets more hits per AB
Posted by buganationHD
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:09 pm to
At least pap can get it out the infield. One triple doesn't make you a hitter. Pap has way more potential the KRob.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:11 pm to
Pap only has 2 doubles... KRob, a double and a triple. They aren't that much different... other than BA
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:12 pm to
Jesus man, have you even watched Pap hit? He had a worse approach at the plate that Kramer. And that's saying something. And Kramer can run. And at the beginning of the season I was all aboard the Pap pain train. I was wrong. But I think he'll be a good defensive catcher for the Tigers come next year.
Posted by buganationHD
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:13 pm to
Either way. The more AB pap gets the more he will improve. KRob has a pretty low ceiling on potential. Plus, like someone has already stated, KRob has already had the chance to prove himself.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:14 pm to
What are you arguing? Are you saying Pap should have subbed in for Fraley today?
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

I disagree that he's a below average OF. He made a bad mistake today but he isn't a liability out there.

I've thought the same for three seasons now. The mistake today isn't what I'm basing it on, though it isn't surprising in the least.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84935 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

The more AB pap gets the more he will improve.
KRob is only a sophomore... why can't the same be said for him?
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KRob has already had the chance to prove himself.
He was only moved because Foster was hitting close to .400.

Like I said, everyone... every one... thought that if he hit .250 this year, he was a lock at 2B. It's the hitting of others and not his bat that is keeping him off the field.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:15 pm to
Im arguing that he should never play. Except maybe to pinch run. Yes he might have a better BA than a few freshman but his ceiling is much lower than theirs. I also get that he plays exceptional D. But 2B is not the hardest position and Foster does a fine job.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

m arguing that he should never play. Except maybe to pinch run. Yes he might have a better BA than a few freshman but his ceiling is much lower than theirs. I also get that he plays exceptional D. But 2B is not the hardest position and Foster does a fine job.



The real question is why you don't bunt one of your worst hitters with runners on 1st and second with no outs. That's the real fricking question.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:17 pm to
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But 2B is not the hardest position and Foster does a fine job.
He's struggling to turn 2 still.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

Foster does a fine job

Relative to what?
Posted by clownbaby
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:20 pm to
I'm not making any of the same sweeping broad statements that have been made in this thread, but I will say that K-Robs situational hitting this year has been dismal. Alot of his AB's this year have come in situations where his primary job should be to move runners up and he simply does not do that. He has trouble getting himself into a good hitters count and can start eliminating offspeed pitchers and start looking fastball.

As for Pap, yes, we haven't seen much of the advertised power yet, but he does a good job of recognizing breaking balls early and laying off. He makes a lot of contact and will be great in the future, but right now, there's just no spot for him in the regular lineup
Posted by Tigerfan_95
Member since Jun 2014
2932 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:20 pm to
The point is you can't judge a true freshman hitter less than halfway through the year when he doesn't play consistant. Krob was a terrible hitter last year and hasn't improved enough to win the starting job he was supposed to win
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

KRob is only a sophomore... why can't the same be said for him?


Pap is a 6'3 195lb switch hitting beast. He was one of the best high school players in the country. Its very hard to find a catcher with his potential and thats why the same can't be said for him.

Posted by buganationHD
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2014
116 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

Im arguing that he should never play. Except maybe to pinch run. Yes he might have a better BA than a few freshman but his ceiling is much lower than theirs. I also get that he plays exceptional D. But 2B is not the hardest position and Foster does a fine job.

Plus the guy can't bunt. Remembering the last time he had to bunt he looked at two strikes and bunted the third pitch foul.
Posted by clownbaby
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:23 pm to
Also, they're 2 completely different types of hitters and shouldn't be compared head to head.

My argument would be why not put Byrd in after Fraley's injury with a righty on the mound
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:23 pm to
Pap is not going to play this year unless Scivicque gets hurt. That's just the way it is. You're gonna see more of Krob.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84935 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

I will say that K-Robs situational hitting this year has been dismal
I would agree.
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Alot of his AB's this year have come in situations where his primary job should be to move runners up and he simply does not do that
He should have bunted in one of his ABs today. Not his fault.
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He has trouble getting himself into a good hitters count and can start eliminating offspeed pitchers and start looking fastball.
That's been the troubling part of this year. Last year, he was doing the opposite. Working a pitcher really well. He's taken a step back in this regard.
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he does a good job of recognizing breaking balls early and laying off. He makes a lot of contact and will be great in the future, but right now, there's just no spot for him in the regular lineup
Eh... I wouldn't say either of those first two. And it's not just that there isn't a spot for him. He looked lost catching Lange early and during some of his ABs.

Do not get me wrong about Pap. I'm a big fan of his. I thought he would have won the job by now after watching fall ball. He looked really far ahead of Sciv in some of those games. But I was wrong about both players. Happily wrong about Sciv!
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84935 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:24 pm to
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Krob was a terrible hitter last year and hasn't improved enough to win the starting job he was supposed to win
OMG how dense are you?
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