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re: Official The Walking Dead Season 5 Finale S05E16 "Conquer" NO COMICS

Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:21 am to
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:21 am to
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more importantly, inside these walls, she is absolutely a badass (in comparison to the residents) and she's taking on a bully's mentality - she can get away with it, and she knows it

Yeah, I agree with that. That's kinda what I'm getting at...she can pull it off where she currently is, but if she's not careful it could backfire on her very easily.
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:25 am to
Father Gabe sucks so bad and they should have killed him already. Sasha needs to go away, forever. Oh and Glenn should have killed Nicholas instead of bringing him back. I wonder what his punishment is going to be and how that process plays out.

I was surprised no major character was killed this episode. Kinda disappointed, but it was still a great finale.

If the wolves are the exiled group like most believe, where is the female at? A-A-ron said it was 2 men and one female. So if that is them then where is she at?

Why do the walkers have the W and also those two dudes? I get the wolves part, but why both humans and zombies?

It was clear Darryl knew something was up when he glanced at the trucks and hesitated. No idea why he still opened them though. I noticed the cans hanging from the trucks and told the wife that something wrong.

I really hope they show that A-A-ron remembers dropping his bag with the pics and map. If they do, then we should be able to see Alexandria go through big changes prepping for the wolves to attack them. They only way they can be successful (if it is just 2 guys) is by using that vast zombie army and getting them inside Alexandria. No signs yet that they have any sort of heavy fire power.

Great finale, and interested to see how they manage this pending conflict with the wolves, Morgan/Rick relationship, transformation of Alexdria, and what they do with Nicholas.

Posted by lsu13lsu
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:29 am to
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Whats worse is that they dubbed in the sound of a Harley V-twin, but his motorcycle is powered by a Japanese 4 cylinder engine. Smh.


That motorcycle was utterly ridiculous. Even if you can let go the fact that the had all the parts to build a brand new motorcycle in a few hours. Why would you drive that loud arse thing on secret missions?!

The sound people go too far on this show and it has become laughable. I don't think they have a real world clue about single thing. In every single scene the zombies are loud as all hell except when ninja zombie shows up and bites someone when they are not looking.

The only people worse than the sound people are whoever scripts and directs the gun scenes. I laugh out loud every time a gun is used on this show. Which they are still using as if factories are producing ammo old world style.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:30 am to
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I think Gabriel is over his problem now, whatever it was, based on seeing them holding hands and praying after the whole ordeal with Sasha. I think he gets it together and becomes a solid character next season.


Now see, Gabriel is the one kind of crazy I don't think I'd be able to live with. Want to sleep on a bed of walkers like Sasha? - sure, no skin off my nose. Want to threaten children that you will tie them to a tree and let walkers eat them like Carol? - ok. Extreme but if you have to keep the kid quiet, you gotta do what you gotta do. Want to kill a guy because he's beating his wife who you have the hots for like Rick? Sure, got yer back.

But going to the leader of our new community and telling her shite about our group trying to get us kicked out. And leaving the gate open on top of that? frick you Gabe. Too dangerous to live and let live.
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:30 am to
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:31 am to
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I don't know. I agree with you for the most part (especially about them killing most people), but I will be disappointed if they've been building up toward "the Wolves" for most of this half-season, only for it to end up being just these two asshats.



I think there are others but not many. Hence the army of walkers. They need them IMO and will attempt to use them on Alexandria. (pretty obvious, I know)
Posted by lsu13lsu
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:34 am to
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I did think it was a little weird that they knew the Wolves were coming, but still stayed at the warehouse chatting it up.

Also was a little disappointed that Darryl didn't notice that trap.


Yeah, they say they are so skilled in the outside world but are constantly walking around outside in the woods talking loudly or wasting ammo or falling into that obvious trap.

About that trap, those zombies filled up the yard way too fast. There is no way that many zombies filled the yard.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:34 am to
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Now see, Gabriel is the one kind of crazy I don't think I'd be able to live with.
Hell no. that two face coward would be left outside the gates.
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:37 am to
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if I thought she was a legitimate badass instead of trying to simply act like one when she knows she has the upper hand on someone (like a coward or a child).


I can understand that. I'm more inclined to thinking she is a badass because of the Terminus thing and surviving on her own after being banished by Rick.

Posted by Uncle Stu
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:40 am to
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. They only way they can be successful (if it is just 2 guys) is by using that vast zombie army and getting them inside Alexandria. No signs yet that they have any sort of heavy fire power.

didn't look like they needed a bunch of firepower to blow thru that wall of the neighborhood where Noah grew up

with that army, they could just employ Governor tactics

blow a hole in the wall
back up a truck
unload your army of walkers
?????
profit
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:40 am to
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If the wolves are the exiled group like most believe, where is the female at? A-A-ron said it was 2 men and one female. So if that is them then where is she at?

I think that the two guys are just scouts, and that's why they keep tagging the phrase "Wolves not far" and carving Ws in trees and stuff. Those are being used as "bread crumbs" for the main group to follow. I'm thinking that the scouts do all of the prep work for the main group, and the main group use the zombies and any other resources that the scouts have gathered to take down the next town that they come across.

I think the only significance with the story of the exiled people was to add tension to the Rick "trial". I guess we could find out that the scouts stumbled across the 3 exiles and turned the two guys into zombies, and did who knows what to the girl (who was the girl that Daryl and Aaron stumbled upon tied to the tree). But I don't think the exiles will be part of the wolves.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 10:42 am
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:46 am to
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Hell no. that two face coward would be left outside the gates.


Not if I was there. Shot to the dome. You dont get a chance to go outside and bring others to where we are.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:51 am to
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I'm more inclined to thinking she is a badass because of the Terminus thing and surviving on her own after being banished by Rick.

I can dig that a little bit. She definitely saved the day at Terminus and even pulled some "badass" type moves.

She's definitely a survivor for sure. But her bold, new confidence may be her downfall.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:57 am to
Fair point. I'm just shocked he's survived this long. The whole scene at the church rubbed me the wrong way.
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:00 am to
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I'm just shocked he's survived this long.


Samesies. At least Eugene's useless arse made himself seem important and wasnt a pyscho. His lie gave them purpose and a mission.

Gabe just fricks everything up like early seasons Coral.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:01 am to
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I can dig that a little bit. She definitely saved the day at Terminus and even pulled some "badass" type moves.

She's definitely a survivor for sure. But her bold, new confidence may be her downfall.

To be honest I think Carol is, in the words of Rod Tidwell to Jerry Maquire: "hanging on by a very thin thread". But of course like Rod, we kind of dig that about her.

I don't think Carol would have to travel very far to go over the edge.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:02 am to
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She's definitely a survivor for sure. But her bold, new confidence may be her downfall.

She's the only one of the group that can play both sides of the coin. The people in A-Town think she's this quiet middle age women. She can their trust and use that to her advantage imo.
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:08 am to
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Father Gabe sucks so bad and they should have killed him already. Sasha needs to go away, forever.

That scene with both of them was torture. Was so hoping they'd manage to kill each other.

Father Gabe, the whimpering simp, is one of the worst characters in TV history.
Posted by SoDakHawk
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:09 am to
I think the two exiles are the Wolves and I think they are working alone. They use zombies as weapons and force multipliers. I realize it doesn't make practical sense but the exiles have been brought up way too many times now and it has been pointed out it was two guys and one girl. Who are the Wolves? Two guys.

Aaron said they drove them way put and dumped them. Makes sense that they could have blindfolded them and dumped them out in an unknown area. Unless the two exiles spent a lot of time outside the walls in Alexandria they might not know the terrain or where ASZ actually was. Take them out a hundres miles and dump them and they might not know the way back. Now they find Aaron's bag, the pictures, a map, they realize their trap missed the guy who drove them out and dumped them, yeah, these guys will for sure be coming to take that place down. Also, if the exiles come back and kill people in ASZ it reinforces what Rick has been saying about how people need to be dealt with and that his way is the right way.

Finally, it's TV, everything comes full circle in TV shows. I'd be surprised if it wasn't them, or at least if it's not them the exiles don't reappear at some point in time.
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:13 am to
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When Glenn was on the ground and had zombies covering him I wasn't worried and didn't think he would die. This is the same Glenn that took out a zombie will tied to a chair when Merle had him locked up in a room.

That was maybe my favorite scene in the whole history of the show, but he didn't have a bullet in his shoulder.

I would have liked to see how he got out of yesterday's predicament, but I get that they wanted us to think he was dead.

What confused me was, how did it get dark so fast?
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