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re: Dealership internet pricing
Posted on 3/30/15 at 3:33 pm to fatboydave
Posted on 3/30/15 at 3:33 pm to fatboydave
i just purchased a car and started by emailing internet sales departments for the 6 or 7 closest audi dealerships. some were willing to give decent quotes via email, some weren't. at the end of the day my wife and i went to a dealership not too far from home, so we could easily walk away if we didn't like the deal. i think if you catch them at the right time(just before closing time, towards the end of a quarter) you will get the best price by being there in person, and are willing to walk away.
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:37 pm to Double Oh
quote "they want you in the door so they can talk face to face with you"
last 2 deals i have done have been emails with signed purchase agreements/vehicle vin # before leaving the house Get a good deal, shop it around to see if a closer dealer will beat it. i would not travel without a signed deal in hand.
last 2 deals i have done have been emails with signed purchase agreements/vehicle vin # before leaving the house Get a good deal, shop it around to see if a closer dealer will beat it. i would not travel without a signed deal in hand.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:26 am to 756
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2. How much does buying in town mean when it comes to getting service at a local dealer?
This is often overlooked by many people. If you get in a bind and need some help, but you bought the vehicle out of town, then the local dealer is likely to recommend that you seek help from your selling dealer. You're much more likely to get out of warranty help from the selling dealer.
Internet pricing also doesn't include the fees (doc fees, notary fees, etc.) Saving $500 on the price with a $600-$800 doc is how they get you. If you plan on going out of town to buy, ask them to fax a completed buyers order to you so you can have a cashiers check printed when you get there. That's a good way to call their bluff.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:32 pm to Me4Heisman
When I got my wifes Sequoia I sent a GROUP email to all the dealers in a few state radius that I would be willing to drive too. I basically said this is what I want...happy budding. Some didn't want to get involved...and then the others I got a range of about 4-5k. I took the lowest number and went to my local toyota dealership and said beat this and I buy from you....or me and the wife take a little vacation. Was kinda fun actually...
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:12 am to NOLAGT
So what happened?
Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:58 am to MikeBRLA
They matched the lowest price I got from group emailing...didnt have to drive anyplace and saved a few grand. It was quite amusing to read some of there responses. I dont know if that was the best way to go about it but it was fun and worked. Toyota usually dont budge too much on there trucks anyway...I knew what was a fair price for me to pay and I think I was under that a little. I really have a general bad taste for car stealerships in general....from sales to service.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:39 pm to NOLAGT
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They matched the lowest price I got from group emailing...didnt have to drive anyplace and saved a few grand. It was quite amusing to read some of there responses. I dont know if that was the best way to go about it but it was fun and worked. Toyota usually dont budge too much on there trucks anyway...I knew what was a fair price for me to pay and I think I was under that a little. I really have a general bad taste for car stealerships in general....from sales to service.
Congrats on wasting the time of countless people's time in multiple states with no true intention of buying from them.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:45 pm to KosmoCramer
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Congrats on wasting the time of countless people's time in multiple states with no true intention of buying from them
And people wonder why us dealers are cranky at times.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:53 pm to Coach Guidry
I had every intention of buying from the one that offered me the best deal. If the local place would not have matched it...I would have made the trip. I have zero love for dealerships...the amount of times they have screwed and attempted to screw me...nope sorry. Gone are the days of walking in and going through the whole circus act they do...ohh let me introduce you to my manager
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:37 pm to NOLAGT
[quote]Gone are the days of walking in and going through the whole circus act they do...ohh let me introduce you to my manager
Why is that a negative thing? If you are responsible for a multi million dollar company...wouldn't you, as a manager, want to be involved and know what's going on?
Why is that a negative thing? If you are responsible for a multi million dollar company...wouldn't you, as a manager, want to be involved and know what's going on?
Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:26 pm to Coach Guidry
Well I guess the times it happens to me its just the lead in for so how can I sell you a car before you leave today even if it's lies or 1/2 truths. And I get it, it's there job and Id want to know as a manager too. I have just been burned and flat out lied to too many times to "make" a sale that I just have a general dislike for them. I know not ALL dealers are like that...the guy I buy work trucks from has been stellar for 18 years. But he just sells comercial fords...
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 4/2/15 at 7:09 pm to NOLAGT
You weren't negotiating in good faith with the online dealers.
I have a problem with that. It's a waste of people's time and if they would have known what you were doing, they wouldn't have indulged you.
Oh well.
I have a problem with that. It's a waste of people's time and if they would have known what you were doing, they wouldn't have indulged you.
Oh well.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 10:26 pm to KosmoCramer
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You weren't negotiating in good faith with the online dealers. I have a problem with that.
He said he sent a mass e-mail- any dealer that opened it could see what he was doing. If they wanted to earn his business, they could have responded with their best offer.
I have people do this in the O&G industry all the time- several companies solicit to lease their minerals, the landowner receives everyone's best offer send picks the one best for him.
If someone wants to sell a car. They better make their offer good!
Posted on 4/2/15 at 11:36 pm to LSUGUMBO
But then the hometown dealer gets the last shot to beat his best deal by a dollar.
That's not good faith IMO.
Dealers know this is what people do so a lot of them won't play ball over email for this very reason. But then they get billed by consumers as scummy (which a lot are).
It's a vicious cycle
That's not good faith IMO.
Dealers know this is what people do so a lot of them won't play ball over email for this very reason. But then they get billed by consumers as scummy (which a lot are).
It's a vicious cycle
Posted on 4/3/15 at 5:30 am to TheSHU
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This is often overlooked by many people. If you get in a bind and need some help, but you bought the vehicle out of town, then the local dealer is likely to recommend that you seek help from your selling dealer. You're much more likely to get out of warranty help from the selling dealer.
I worked on the service end a few years back and we always checked to see where the vehicle was purchased.
If the vehicle was owned by a local owner YET the vehicle was bought from another dealership, especially from the general area, NO SPECIAL favors or effort was done.
People would want a 'loaner', sorry don't have one.
They would want us to 'goodwill' a repair or help out on the labor/parts pricing, uhh, nope can't do it.
They needed a repair none of the local shops could perform nor wanted to do, sorry, we are booked up for 3 weeks and they would get that 'special' price.
So it goes both ways.
Thats why I shop local. First, I want to support the local economy/business.
When you buy out-of-town/state/country, you are sending money out of your local economy, never to be seen again.
Don't be so foolish to think it doesn't affect you because it does.
Somewhere down the line, the local businesses that I patronize are going to do business with me.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:39 am to Reubaltaich
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This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:47 am to KosmoCramer
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That's not good faith IMO.
This is how companies quote out business all the time. Sometimes it's an incumbent supplier instead of a local one, but the thought process is the same. Sometimes they are willing to pay a little more to stay with the incumbent/local dealer. They don't always have to match the price.
I'm sure in this scenario if one of the dealers came back over email with a price $2-5k less than the local dealer, they would have at least given them a better look.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:16 am to Me4Heisman
I'd researched, and priced a new car for several months, and got the best deal by far from Mac Haik Chevrolet. After finding the car I wanted, and got the internet price I called the dealership. Randy Haddox was our salesman, and I can honestly say (and I'm old) of all the car salesman I've dealt with though my life, he's the only one that I would do business with again. I purchased a Impala LTZ from Mac Haik, and picked it up the day after Christmas. No one in this area could ever come close to the price. I felt that I was treated fairly on my trade in, and they also took care of the Louisiana tax, and license, so I didn't have to deal with DMV at all. It was just like buying from here in that regard. Rode the Texas inspection sticker for a couple of months to boot. So I'm rockin the Mac Haik peacock in the BR.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:58 am to vjp819
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well maybe our local dealers need to start offering better prices
I can offer a low price...and then said customer says they received a better deal from Houston. Well of course you received a better deal...you gave them my number. If an offense gives the defense their playbook...who wins?
The main problem falls when a customer says "X dealer has you beat by 1k" But...they have no proof...said it was just a phone call.
So now Im pricing against a number that may or may not exist. It is a vicious cycle and there is no real solution to the problem. I personally have priced a vehicle and lost 1k (real loss...not just saying it) to keep a customer local. Now did someone actually quote them that low? I'll never know...I just have to hope I was competing with an actual real number.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 4:41 pm to 632627
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i just purchased a car and started by emailing internet sales departments for the 6 or 7 closest audi dealerships
I found my local Audi buying experience to be a joy. It was professional in every way.
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