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re: Brandon Harris/ LF7/ AJ Videos, Scrimmage Videos, Spring Break 4/12 Updates

Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:22 am to
Posted by Nix to Twillie
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:22 am to
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Jennings had "good" games for a true So. Not great or outstanding or AA type games but certainly he played well enough in some to seen as a "good game".


I can't recall one game other than SHSU where he threw the ball accurately and consistently for most of the game. A 13-22, 200 yds, 1 td performance would be considered by most to be "good." For AJ, that WOULD be "great, outstanding, or AA." Unfortunately that's the kind of game we need him to have if we expect to improve.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 10:30 am
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:24 am to
Well one thing is for sure, Les won't be able to hide the QB's on april 18th. for good or for bad.
Posted by DBU
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:58 am to
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Quid Pro Quo



Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 11:20 am to
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This affinity you seem to have for a true So. QB who has started one time for LSU with very poor success is beginning to take on delusional aspects.


People are entitled totheir affinities...Get over it.
Posted by YouAre8Up
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 11:27 am to
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Well one thing is for sure, Les won't be able to hide the QB's on april 18th. for good or for bad.


Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 11:28 am to
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Well one thing is for sure, Les won't be able to hide the QB's on april 18th. for good or for bad.



what makes you think Les is "hiding" the QBs?
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 11:40 am to
Lsu "fans" can't wait for the spring game so can they support their favorite player and shite on the other one. Unreal.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 12:01 pm to
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where he threw the ball accurately and consistently for most of the game


Throwing the ball "accurately", while important, is not the only judgment of a QB performance in terms of a "good game". As I recall, Jennings accounted for like 250 yds of O with 2 TDs and no ints vs. Wis. Seems like I remember A&M being a "good game" for him when you consider how his running the ball impacted that game for LSU.

I am in no way saying Jennings was impressive overall in his performance last yr. or that he should be the starter in Sept. I do think he had a few games I would rank as "good". I would hope and think he would be better come Sept. I feel the same way bout Harris.


Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 12:07 pm to
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Les won't be able to hide the QB's on april 18th


Wait, why would he have to "hide" the QBs?

Jesus some of you people sound like serial killers.
Posted by JaxTiger10
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 12:41 pm to
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You better RA him again. Can't let his factual and analytical posts keep showing you up. 


That's literally never happened.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:29 pm to
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Throwing the ball "accurately", while important, is not the only judgment of a QB performance in terms of a "good game".


I understand what you're saying, and I agree with much of it. But I still think throwing the ball effectively, consistently, has to be priority number 1.

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I would hope and think he would be better come Sept.



I think there's no question he'll be better. But will he be good enough to lead us to serious contention for the West? Anything less is disappointing...and it should be. This is LSU.


Posted by chilge1
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:50 pm to
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If you want to transcribe the LF7 video on Harris' mastery of the offense and you think you can do a better job, with no parenthetical explanations, go for it. 


I don't. Anyone who cares for what Fournette says can click the link. I'm not about to assume that I know the cause behind his perception.

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RP was a DTQB that neither Miles nor Fisher knew how to utilize until they had to for the SECCG. 

You're right. Flynn should never have played a down in 2007.

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How did "you" decide that AJ is more cerebral than Harris? You have nothing quantitative to support that or many of your posts. 

It's not something you can quantify. Harris started playing QB in high school and has been a collegiate QB for one year. Of course Jennings would have a better grasp of the position.

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Miles/Cam committed to developing AJ or BH as an elite passer, and have 12 of the best WRs, and a reported goal of 70% completion (Link: does anyone have the link to him saying 70%?)


Does not exist.

His exact quote was 13-21.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 2:18 pm
Posted by chilge1
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:03 pm to
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I think there's no question he'll be better. But will he be good enough to lead us to serious contention for the West? Anything less is disappointing...and it should be. This is LSU. 



Unless Cam Newton reappears, Jennings/Harris will have to do very little for us to compete for the division.

In 2014 regular season games started by Jennings, LSU was undefeated in games where he posted an absurdly low 107.0 QBR.

As long as there is minimal improvement in the passing game and there are no MSST/AUB/ND defensive games, I see an 11-1 type season.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:48 pm to
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In 2014 regular season games started by Jennings, LSU was undefeated in games where he posted an absurdly low 107.0 QBR.


and how many games did we lose with AJ as the starter?
Posted by Quid Pro Quo
SEC
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:52 pm to
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Miles/Cam committed to developing AJ or BH as an elite passer, and have 12 of the best WRs, and a reported goal of 70% completion (Link: does anyone have the link to him saying 70%?) Does not exist.
His exact quote was 13-21.


Cody Worsham Tigerrag Transcript: Setting a goal of completing 70 percent of the team’s passes, Miles noted that while Jennings has had the edge on more days, he’s not seeing enough separation between the two for his liking.

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quote: RP was a DTQB that neither Miles nor Fisher knew how to utilize until they had to for the SECCG. You're right. Flynn should never have played a down in 2007.


You really took that out of context. I said RP should have stayed committed to UT in a DTQB system as Vince Young's successor in one year after he won the Heisman in 2005, rather than riding the pine here for 3 years as the #1 QB in the country, and one of the best in LA history. Miles got RP, long committed to UT to flip on NSD and he disappeared to the practice squad. Miles promised him playing time each and every year and did not deliver. Without RP, no SECCG, and without Missouri and West Virginia losing, no trip to NC where RP was promised a package of plays he did not get.
Posted by Quid Pro Quo
SEC
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:52 pm to
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This affinity you seem to have for a true So. QB who has started one time for LSU with very poor success is beginning to take on delusional aspects.

You might be the one being obtuse, delusional and totally inconsistent, you just described Jennings at the beginning of last year "a true So. QB who has started one time for LSU with very poor success". His one start was a Bowl game, not SEC home or road game, and Jeremy Hill dominated that game, while Jennings only managed an INT and several sacks. Booger McFarland and Marcus Spears said he was so wide-eyed and shaky during the game they could not interview him.

Last year it was a true Soph with one start who got trounced in the spring game, that got the nod over a true Fr. Now this year it is we "must not start a Soph" because we have this Junior who got worse and worse as the season progressed and finished last in the SEC and 125th-128th in the entire FBS (last if you take out Harris' record 91 pts in 6 qtrs of play). With that logic you are going to always Rant for the more senior player when Harris has 10x more experience than AJ had starting last year, and as Miles openly says "there is no separation" between a Junior who started 13 games and Soph who started the first SEC road game either of them had ever played in, with a game plan that was predictable and conservative against an explosive offense. It is an open competition, a good healthy competition, and Miles is in no hurry, because both are improving in the different areas where they needed improvement. Harris has far more arm talent, is faster, runs and throws harder, makes explosive plays with his arm and feet.

There were all of these straw men like seniority that kept popping up as the season progressed:
Game Manager who doesn't turn the ball over with fumbles or INTs-well that metric did not work out, he had 4 Turnovers vs NMSU, 2 vs Ole Miss, back-to-back, down in the 4th qtr 7-3. Had his worst passing game vs ALA, 2-10 first half with an INT, 30% completion rate, 18 QBR, followed by ARK shutout, the worst in 40 yrs against a team that had not won an SEC game in 3 yrs. Over those 3 games he avg 7 pts per game and was 128th in the league. The A&M game you say was good, we had over 2xTOP, like ALA, over 2x the yds, could not convert in the red zone, 5 FGs atts, 3 made, 1 passing TD, and the first rushing TD in 4 games. We benefited from a no-call offsides to end the game, and an early targeting ejection against their best DBU that was not 1/100th as bad as the targeting no-call hit Saban had Rueben Foster laid on LF7 for not committing to ALA. Saban ran on the field celebrating and said that won the game for them.
The A&M game was so close that Miles could not get Harris in the game on the same assumption that he offered up after the 17-0 ARK game "AJ gives us the best option at victory". There was also makes the other 10 players look better, playbook, film study, etc. And 2 months after the end of the season, at the start of Spring Practice all of those things were gone and the coaches want a 70% Passer along with the more complex game skills he now has.

Harris may have had a nagging high ankle sprain but it was not a double torn biceps like Quentin Thomas had and he took 50% of the snaps all year after the AUB game and Miles said he was developing well.

Posted by Quid Pro Quo
SEC
Member since Dec 2013
541 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:56 pm to
chilge1
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n 2014 regular season games started by Jennings, LSU was undefeated in games where he posted an absurdly low 107.0 QBR.


100 is the highest QBR you can get. You must be talking about RAT, passer rating.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 3:18 pm
Posted by Tigersport2014
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:57 pm to
TL/DNR
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:58 pm to
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Harris may have had a nagging high ankle sprain but it was not a double torn biceps like Quentin Thomas had and he took 50% of the snaps all year after the AUB game and Miles said he was developing well.


One of these causes pain the other really doesn't.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 6:00 pm
Posted by Quid Pro Quo
SEC
Member since Dec 2013
541 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:06 pm to
chilge1
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In 2014 regular season games started by Jennings, LSU was undefeated in games where he posted an absurdly low 107.0 QBR.


Wrong again, 2 ways not QBR and: He had 120 RAT vs AUB, a -21.5 vs NMSU before he was pulled, and the rest of the losses were to the SEC: MSST unranked when played, ALA, ARK-had not won and SEC game in 3 yrs, and ND.

As usual you are manufacturing "Chilge facts"..please proceed.
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