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re: Brandon Harris/ LF7/ AJ Videos, Scrimmage Videos, Spring Break 4/12 Updates
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:18 pm to chilge1
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:18 pm to chilge1
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As long as there is minimal improvement in the passing game and there are no MSST/AUB/ND defensive games, I see an 11-1 type season.
I really don't think you realize just how painfully awful his QB play was. The difference between Anthony Jennings and Matt Flynn is not an inch, it's a mile.
Edit: What I mean to say is while Flynn wasn't a gunslinger either and had only a modest completion percentage (56% to AJ's %49), it was everything else. The decision-making, situational awareness, ability to look off receivers...all of that was INCREDIBLE to what we saw in 2014, not just minimally better. Flynn's a guy you use a lot in demonstrating what kind of passer we need and that AJ COULD be, but I think the gap is wider than you realize.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 3:30 pm
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:41 pm to eldouchebag
He better become a 60% passer right away or Miles will hear from the stands or the parking lot where pissed off fans will end up.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:56 pm to Nix to Twillie
With JaMarcus Russell's departure, Flynn finally became a starter as a fifth-year senior. He started every game that season except the SEC Championship in which he was injured. He finished the season with 2407 passing yards, 21 TDS and 11 INTs. In addition, he rushed for 215 yards and 4 TDs.
2407 yds was just BELOW the 50th percentile.
2407 yds was just BELOW the 50th percentile.
This post was edited on 4/2/15 at 10:21 am
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:27 pm to chilge1
chilge1
ND, we had the Kragthorpe TD reversed and missed a FG that should have been a TD - FG's statistically are not considered a successful drive. We also had a fumble and LF only got 1/4 the carries and had 3 TDs in 38 secs. Jennings fumbled and we lost the turnover battle, plus got stopped on the 1 yd line and missed the FG. That is an offensive problem not being able to punch it in from the 1. GEEZ
You really can't be serious? We have a last place offense with about the absolute worst passer in the country without Harris' stats thrown in and you say minimal improvement.
Chavis is not here anymore, so don't expect us to hold explosive offenses to less than 30 pts, that is the 10 below avg. No wonder Chief went to A&M, not for just the money, but he knows more about modern offenses than anyone - he had to defend and scheme to contain them, and for what? Still, the majority of the fan base expects the defense to win games for us. And they had a higher scoring efficiency. Chief choked the life out of ALA 2X with 1:13 to go and still LSU could not score in the red zone. I bet the defense could have stayed on the field and did a better job than AJ with that fumble recovery.
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As long as there is minimal improvement in the passing game and there are no MSST/AUB/ND defensive games, I see an 11-1 type season.
ND, we had the Kragthorpe TD reversed and missed a FG that should have been a TD - FG's statistically are not considered a successful drive. We also had a fumble and LF only got 1/4 the carries and had 3 TDs in 38 secs. Jennings fumbled and we lost the turnover battle, plus got stopped on the 1 yd line and missed the FG. That is an offensive problem not being able to punch it in from the 1. GEEZ
You really can't be serious? We have a last place offense with about the absolute worst passer in the country without Harris' stats thrown in and you say minimal improvement.
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"I would like to have already made the decision because that would mean I’ve got Brett Favre or Tim Tebow or somebody like that," Miles told ESPN.com,
quote:I don't remember, but I think he is expecting 300, or should be, that is what it will take to have a chance to win the SEC West. With our 12 receivers, TEs, RBs all catching passes, and the work Cam has put in, with 2 DTQBs we should be able to do it.
Setting a goal of completing 70 percent of the team’s passes, Miles noted that while Jennings has had the edge on more days, he’s not seeing enough separation between the two for his liking.
Chavis is not here anymore, so don't expect us to hold explosive offenses to less than 30 pts, that is the 10 below avg. No wonder Chief went to A&M, not for just the money, but he knows more about modern offenses than anyone - he had to defend and scheme to contain them, and for what? Still, the majority of the fan base expects the defense to win games for us. And they had a higher scoring efficiency. Chief choked the life out of ALA 2X with 1:13 to go and still LSU could not score in the red zone. I bet the defense could have stayed on the field and did a better job than AJ with that fumble recovery.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:38 pm to Nix to Twillie
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Edit: What I mean to say is while Flynn wasn't a gunslinger either and had only a modest completion percentage (56% to AJ's %49), it was everything else. The decision-making, situational awareness, ability to look off receivers...all of that was INCREDIBLE to what we saw in 2014, not just minimally better. Flynn's a guy you use a lot in demonstrating what kind of passer we need and that AJ COULD be, but I think the gap is wider than you realize.
Do you not remember how bad Flynn looked with some of his early career passes? His Ints looked as bad as anything Lee every threw.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:54 pm to Tigercat
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Do you not remember how bad Flynn looked with some of his early career passes? His Ints looked as bad as anything Lee every threw.
I remember 13/22, 196, 2/0 against top 10 Miami.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:54 pm to Quid Pro Quo
Sorry, but not reading all that on a cell.
Harris played last football season and started 1 game. In football Eligibility terms he is a true So. meaning he never had a RS season.
Harris played last football season and started 1 game. In football Eligibility terms he is a true So. meaning he never had a RS season.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:58 pm to Nix to Twillie
Which was at the end of his third year in the program, with him looking not so hot when he played the previous two regular seasons.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 5:39 pm to Nix to Twillie
Nice post. Totally agree that Flynn was overrated and under appreciated. Honestly, even JJ was vastly more threatening over all at the QB position than AJ.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:03 pm to Tigercat
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Which was at the end of his third year in the program, with him looking not so hot when he played the previous two regular seasons.
Flynn had a couple bad games in 2007 but our rushing attack made up for it. We ran for 3,000 yards
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:10 pm to Quid Pro Quo
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HiJaxTiger justs reposts the same historical perspective.
No i dont. Not everyone need a 400 word essay with charts and graphs to say HARRIS HAS MORE UPSIDE. Thats not some great analysis
We run a prostyle offense( which is by far the most complex kind of offense)and recruit players that have never taken a snap under center. It shouldnt surprise anyone with football knowledge that young and inexperienced qbs havent done well under Miles.
Also, im sorry that Miles' great win % at LSU doesnt fit your narrative of him not choosing the right players. I only post those FACTS when posters post some ignorant post about Miles not doing well at lsu or that he is an idiot. Miles jas achieved those great #s during the most successful era of sec football, EVER. So pardon me for siding with the choices of the most successful lsu coach,ever, over posters that dont have as much football knowledge as my 9 year old son.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:19 pm to JaxTiger10
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Flynn had a couple bad games in 2007 but our rushing attack made up for it. We ran for 3,000 yards
Flynn had some GREAT games in 2007. With some very KEY completions...
Funny how you NEVER mention how good Flynn was....
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:22 pm to dukke v
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Funny how you NEVER mention how good Flynn was.
Because its understood that he was a decent qb at lsu. He tied the single season tds record. When i start seeing people constantly shitting on Flynn then i will correct posters.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:22 pm to Quid Pro Quo
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You might be the one being obtuse, delusional and totally inconsistent, you just described Jennings at the beginning of last year "a true So. QB who has started one time for LSU with very poor success". His one start was a Bowl game, not SEC home or road game, and Jeremy Hill dominated that game, while Jennings only managed an INT and several sacks. Booger McFarland and Marcus Spears said he was so wide-eyed and shaky during the game they could not interview him.
You mean the guys from the SEC network that premiered Fall 2014? Got a link to those quotes?
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Last year it was a true Soph with one start who got trounced in the spring game, that got the nod over a true Fr. Now this year it is we "must not start a Soph" because we have this Junior who got worse and worse as the season progressed and finished last in the SEC and 125th-128th in the entire FBS (last if you take out Harris' record 91 pts in 6 qtrs of play).
Id like to see a link for this as well, as I cant find the stats...probably because you never specified what he finished last in.
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Game Manager who doesn't turn the ball over with fumbles or INTs-well that metric did not work out, he had 4 Turnovers vs NMSU, 2 vs Ole Miss, back-to-back, down in the 4th qtr 7-3. Had his worst passing game vs ALA, 2-10 first half with an INT, 30% completion rate, 18 QBR, followed by ARK shutout, the worst in 40 yrs against a team that had not won an SEC game in 3 yrs. Over those 3 games he avg 7 pts per game and was 128th in the league. The A&M game you say was good, we had over 2xTOP, like ALA, over 2x the yds, could not convert in the red zone, 5 FGs atts, 3 made, 1 passing TD, and the first rushing TD in 4 games. We benefited from a no-call offsides to end the game, and an early targeting ejection against their best DBU that was not 1/100th as bad as the targeting no-call hit Saban had Rueben Foster laid on LF7 for not committing to ALA. Saban ran on the field celebrating and said that won the game for them.
The A&M game was so close that Miles could not get Harris in the game on the same assumption that he offered up after the 17-0 ARK game "AJ gives us the best option at victory". There was also makes the other 10 players look better, playbook, film study, etc. And 2 months after the end of the season, at the start of Spring Practice all of those things were gone and the coaches want a 70% Passer along with the more complex game skills he now has
All if this is completely incoherent garbage. You have no clue how to make a point. Please stop posting.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:23 pm to JaxTiger10
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We run a prostyle offense( which is by far the most complex kind of offense
Not really...
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and recruit players that have never taken a snap under center
But why does Les do this?????
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It shouldnt surprise anyone with football knowledge that young and inexperienced qbs havent done well under Miles.
Ok so what does Les do about it???? THIS...He recruits a guy that canRUN a real [pro-style] offense... No problem with JR, No problem with Flynn, No problem with METT... is pretty simple/......./
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:34 pm to dukke v
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Not really...
Its common knowledge that a prostyle offense is the most complex offense. Offenses like Oregon and Auburn run the same exact play 50% of the game.
There is a reason you dont see many high school offenses run a pro style. Its because its complex.
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But why does Les do this
High School programs dont produce a lot of true prostyle qbs and LA rarely produces a prostyle offense. I always said that Miles should either switch to a spread or stop recruiting qbs that have never taken a snap under center or had to read a defense while taking 3,5,7 step drop. He is trying to put a square peg in a round hole.
quote:agreed
He recruits a guy that canRUN a real [pro-style] offense... No problem with JR, No problem with Flynn, No problem with METT... is pretty simple/......./
In Miles' defense he has been extremely unlucky in prostyle qb recruits. They either dont pan out, back outnom a commitment or in Zach Lee's case, play baseball.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:40 pm to JaxTiger10
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There is a reason you dont see many high school offenses run a pro style. Its because its complex.
The high schools are so different... You always have the best player as your QB... They can run a pro style offense. And MANY do... Maybe not in Louisiana, but its run quite a bit across the country... Just look at all the teams that run a pro-style offense in major college football... There are plenty... It can be done... But you have to recruit a QB that can run it... Sorry but AJ and Harris haven't done that in HS and it will effect them in the future... Face it . Mett was a perfect fit for cam's offense cause he was always a pro-style qb....
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:52 pm to dukke v
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Just look at all the teams that run a pro-style offense in major college football... There are plenty.
Actually a college program running a prostyle offense is becoming a rarity
The seventh-ranked Spartans, who visit the third-ranked Ducks on Saturday, are among a dwindling number of teams still using what can best be described as a traditional, pro-style attack featuring tight ends, fullbacks and the quarterback regularly taking a snap from under center.
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Sorry but AJ and Harris haven't done that in HS and it will effect them in the future.
I agree that AJ might never be really successful at running a prostyle offense, Harris has every physical tool needed to excel in a prostyle offense. He has the intangibles that cant be coached up,
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:59 pm to JaxTiger10
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I agree that AJ might never be really successful at running a prostyle offense, Harris has every physical tool needed to excel in a prostyle offense. He has the intangibles that cant be coached up,
Hey I am with ya on this point... But will LES give him that chance???? That's the whole problem here....Les' ego..........
Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:26 pm to dukke v
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That's the whole problem here....Les' ego..........
I just find that to be out of character for Miles. I dont know think he would put ego over winning/ job security.
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