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re: NBA Thread 3/25: Dwight Howard Returns
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:32 pm to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:32 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:so, you could have just admitted you were wrong and talking out of your arse on something you were uninformed about and moved on, woulda been easier, no?
Win shares Is best. Is Davis having an all time great win shares season? NO Jimmy Harden leads the league in win shares. Get off the PER wagon bro, it's losing steam, past it's prime. There are better measures out there.
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:33 pm to Boomshockalocka
I think we can agree that if Davis was less "efficient" the Pels would be better off.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:34 pm to shel311
I've seen that graph before, I probably was the original poster. So me, uniformed? 
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:34 pm to Boomshockalocka
I know we can agree that you seem to be clueless on PER, based on your predictive value post.
Care to admit you were wrong yet?
Care to admit you were wrong yet?
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:35 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:so you saw the graph, claim to have posted it, then try to say the complete opposite of what the graph says... That helps your argument how?
I've seen that graph before, I probably was the original poster. So me, uniformed?
It's ok to admit you were wrong, it's rather obvious.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:36 pm to shel311
Answer me this,
If Davis take a shot that he makes 45% of the time, ain't that bettet than Evans, Cole, Cunningham, etc taking a shot that they make 40% of the time?
If davis fg% was at 45% would his PER not decrease? Yes it would. Would the team benefit from it? Yes it would.
And questions?
If Davis take a shot that he makes 45% of the time, ain't that bettet than Evans, Cole, Cunningham, etc taking a shot that they make 40% of the time?
If davis fg% was at 45% would his PER not decrease? Yes it would. Would the team benefit from it? Yes it would.
And questions?
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:37 pm to shel311
Has no predicitve value compared to win shares is what I meant to post, not a big deal really. The gist of my post is that PER is not the best analytic out there yet it's the one that you harp on continually.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:37 pm to Boomshockalocka
Does PER have "NO" predictive value?
Concede, you know you've lost this one.
Concede, you know you've lost this one.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:38 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:LOL
Has no predicitve value compared to win shares is what I meant to post, not a big deal really
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:39 pm to shel311
Answer me this PER tard ...
If Davis take a shot that he makes 45% of the time, ain't that bettet than Evans, Cole, Cunningham, etc taking a shot that they make 40% of the time?
If davis fg% was at 45% would his PER not decrease? Yes it would. Would the team benefit from it? Yes it would.
If Davis take a shot that he makes 45% of the time, ain't that bettet than Evans, Cole, Cunningham, etc taking a shot that they make 40% of the time?
If davis fg% was at 45% would his PER not decrease? Yes it would. Would the team benefit from it? Yes it would.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:40 pm to shel311
Ok OK it doesn't have NO predictive value, no one cares that's not the crux of the argument. I guess that's the only part you can win though soooo you be you.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:42 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:says rh the guy who thought per had no predicitve value.
PER tard
Some people don't know when to just tuck their heads, call it a day, and take the L.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:44 pm to shel311
Still no response? Try to come up with a response. 
If Davis was less "efficient" his team would be better.
If Davis was less "efficient" his team would be better.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:45 pm to Boomshockalocka
I don't know what that has to do with anything we've talked about.
You're creating arguments on the fly that are irrelevant to any discussions in this thread.
You're creating arguments on the fly that are irrelevant to any discussions in this thread.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:50 pm to shel311
Just showing how easy it is to point out flaws in PER and why just because Davis has a high PER doesn't make this one of the all time great seasons.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:50 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:and to answer, the team's PER would increase, as a whole in your scenario. Other players would get more assists and less efficient shooters would short less and so on and so forth...
Answer me this,
If Davis take a shot that he makes 45% of the time, ain't that bettet than Evans, Cole, Cunningham, etc taking a shot that they make 40% of the time?
If davis fg% was at 45% would his PER not decrease? Yes it would. Would the team benefit from it? Yes it would.
And questions?
That's your answer, bet you never thought of that when crafting your scenario.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:51 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:but you tied it into team performance without factoring the other players in your hypothetical.
Just showing how easy it is to point out flaws in PER and why just because Davis has a high PER doesn't make this one of the all time great seasons
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:52 pm to shel311
Davis PER would decrease, but the team would be better. Exactly.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:52 pm to shel311
Both Davis and Harden are great players, and both of y'all have valid points. Davis is having an outstanding season, but he should absolutely be getting the ball more, and therefore his effeciency would be lowered. A lot of that is on coaching. The Pels could possibly be a playoff team if they went to Davis more. The other night there was a 2 minute stretch at the end of the game where Davis didn't touch the ball. The reason Harden is more valuable is because that could never happen with him.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:54 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:for the reasons I explained, which is completely logical
Davis PER would decrease, but the team would be better. Exactly.
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