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Serious Question about raising snapper
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:26 am
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:26 am
Why can't REd Snapper be raised in aquariums or in natural catch pins in the ocean instead of relying on commercial fishermen? it seems like that would be a great industry and it would resolve a lot of issues surrounding recreational fishermen. You would think someone would figure this out.
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:30 am to BamaScoop
I know they do it with Cobia and a few other species with great success.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:40 am to BamaScoop
only thing I could think of is that red snapper live pretty deep down whereas cobia are close to the surface, but I'm not sure if that would make a difference.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:42 am to BamaScoop
quote:If they can pull this off with bluefin...I don't see why they couldn't do it with snapper.
natural catch pins in the ocean
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:44 am to reds on reds on reds
I don't know about that. I've seen videos of snapper caught on top water and cobia bellies full of catfish and flounders and crabs.
I would think growth rate might have something to do with it. How much food and time it would take to grow them. And that's assuming that they want to fix the "problem"
I would think growth rate might have something to do with it. How much food and time it would take to grow them. And that's assuming that they want to fix the "problem"
Posted on 3/25/15 at 12:28 pm to BamaScoop
quote:
Why can't REd Snapper be raised in aquariums or in natural catch pins in the ocean instead of relying on commercial fishermen? it seems like that would be a great industry and it would resolve a lot of issues surrounding recreational fishermen. You would think someone would figure this out.
Great question. I'm not sure but I would think overhead costs would be pretty expensive for a fish that's generally under $4.25 a pound. Also, location and solid waste problems have plagued pen raised fish proposals, globally. I like the idea, and I'm all for it, though.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 12:32 pm to Sparkplug#1
seems like you could put netting around the base of an old oil platform and use the deck portion for processing. 
Posted on 3/25/15 at 12:58 pm to Sparkplug#1
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generally under $4.25 a pound
where have you seen that price?
Posted on 3/25/15 at 1:00 pm to bayoudude
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put netting around the base of an old oil platform and use the deck portion for processing
not a bad idea. i've always wondered why the rig operators wouldn't lease out unused platforms as camps for us offshore guys. imagine how cool that would be.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 1:04 pm to mack the knife
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not a bad idea. i've always wondered why the rig operators wouldn't lease out unused platforms as camps for us offshore guys. imagine how cool that would be
My old man loves to talk about the days when they would spend the night on the rigs. Sometimes the workers would let them use their bathrooms and showers. The pictures he has are insane.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 1:06 pm to mack the knife
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i've always wondered why the rig operators wouldn't lease out unused platforms as camps for us offshore guys. imagine how cool that would be.
My dad can't even step out of a boat in calm waters. how's he going to unload in a 4 ft swell?
Posted on 3/26/15 at 9:01 am to mack the knife
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where have you seen that price?
It's been a year or so, but that's the most I have ever seen, wholesale wise.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 9:02 am to Motorboat
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My dad can't even step out of a boat in calm waters. how's he going to unload in a 4 ft swell? It's all chicken but the bone.
Grab the rope and swing.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 9:19 am to Sparkplug#1
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Grab the rope and swing
we used to do that sometimes. i showed mack jr #1 last summer and he thought it was awsome
Posted on 3/26/15 at 9:56 am to mack the knife
When between sport fishing jobs, I used to run crew boats. Scary as shite watching idiots swing off the stern. Luckily I never crushed anyone and no one fell in the water. I did have many not swing far enough and have to try again, though.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 10:01 am to BamaScoop
I really want fish farms to become common practice in the gulf. I know someone who works for one In Hawaii raising essentially amberjack (although much better tasting). It is a really cool operation. Would be great for recreational fisherman as far as I inderstand. I've caught plenty of snapper in 30ft of water so I don't think depth is really an issue.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 10:01 am to bayoudude
hey, you may have just came up with your million dollar idea.
That is a great one.
"wild-caught" fish processing on rigs. With schooling pins and a netting system to keep out sharks.
That is a great one.
"wild-caught" fish processing on rigs. With schooling pins and a netting system to keep out sharks.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 10:04 am to Napoleon
How do you extract them, with rig legs involved?
Posted on 3/26/15 at 10:21 am to Sparkplug#1
I have read articles on raising fish in pens in the gulf, but unfortunately our hurricanes are the biggest threat to them.
Also fish meal is quite expensive to raise top predator fish. You have to feed them a ton of food to get the weight, but there is a new feedstock that I have seen that might be a game changer.
In the US you will also have one hell of a time getting a permit. Most of the fish farms are in state waters and in LA to get the depth needed it will be all federal.
I always thought it could be successful if done right.
Also fish meal is quite expensive to raise top predator fish. You have to feed them a ton of food to get the weight, but there is a new feedstock that I have seen that might be a game changer.
In the US you will also have one hell of a time getting a permit. Most of the fish farms are in state waters and in LA to get the depth needed it will be all federal.
I always thought it could be successful if done right.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 10:42 am to eng08
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I have read articles on raising fish in pens in the gulf, but unfortunately our hurricanes are the biggest threat to them.
I would think the biggest threat would be disease. Keeping population density high enough to be a economically viable operation invites disease.
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