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re: OT fans if you know someone has not paid taxes in years...
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:38 am to TigerTreyjpg
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:38 am to TigerTreyjpg
I know a guy that claims he hasn't filed in 15+ years. He keeps his lifestyle really low key so maybe that helps, but he does own a shite ton of land. I'd think they'd come after that if nothing else.
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:43 am to TigerTreyjpg
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I'm a CPA, and get a ton of referrals from a couple of law firms in town. It happens much more than you'd think.
I turned in my ex for not filing alimony as income, which she admitted to in court. Never found out what, if anything was done, I know the IRS won't tell you but I figured if they acted on it there would be the equivalent of a nuclear explosion. At that point it had been $60k/yr. for 5 yrs. It's like my attorney said, "justice is found in the dictionary."
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:51 am to PPL
You can't imagine the workload of the IRS, so obviously, they prioritize based on dollars owed (typically, it's dollars they THINK someone owes).
There are folks that do nothing, ignore the IRS notices they receive, and more or less bury their head in the sand until they are forced to deal with their situation. Many times, that day comes when they try to sell a piece of real property. Chances are that property has long been locked up by the IRS via a lien, and the seller can't close on the sale without paying off that lien. The previous situation generally lower income folks.
I've also seen situations where higher income taxpayers don't file. Eventually, the IRS will compute a substitute return based on the information they've received (1099's and such), and send these folks a notice saying "pay up for 2012/the enclosed amount will do". These folks pay it, knowing they came out better by not filing, thus, the problem for that year goes away.
There are folks that do nothing, ignore the IRS notices they receive, and more or less bury their head in the sand until they are forced to deal with their situation. Many times, that day comes when they try to sell a piece of real property. Chances are that property has long been locked up by the IRS via a lien, and the seller can't close on the sale without paying off that lien. The previous situation generally lower income folks.
I've also seen situations where higher income taxpayers don't file. Eventually, the IRS will compute a substitute return based on the information they've received (1099's and such), and send these folks a notice saying "pay up for 2012/the enclosed amount will do". These folks pay it, knowing they came out better by not filing, thus, the problem for that year goes away.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:57 am to 777Tiger
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I'm a CPA, and get a ton of referrals from a couple of law firms in town. It happens much more than you'd think.
I turned in my ex for not filing alimony as income, which she admitted to in court. Never found out what, if anything was done, I know the IRS won't tell you but I figured if they acted on it there would be the equivalent of a nuclear explosion. At that point it had been $60k/yr. for 5 yrs. It's like my attorney said, "justice is found in the dictionary."
Y'all have kids? Is she one of those ex-wives that also runs out and files a return claiming kids that don't belong to her (dependency exemption wise)? That happens ALL the time, to the point where I now send out 4 or 5 certified letters every year to ex-wives telling them if they claim a child they aren't supposed to claim, I'll report them.....quote a buncha tax code mumbo jumpo about the penalties for doing this, etc. The letter is meaningless lol, but it has scared some into not claiming the kid(s).
The IRS is basically a "race to filing" organization when it comes to the dependency exemption of kids. If one spouse claims one they shouldn't have, the Service's position is "you now have a civil claim against that spouse - we're not doing shite about this".
Posted on 3/25/15 at 12:01 pm to TigerTreyjpg
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Y'all have kids?
yes,and the dissolution ruling specifically states that I can claim them as dependents, yet she has testified that her accountant(doesn't have one,) advises her that she can claim them(same one that advised her that she doesn't have to claim alimony as income.)
This post was edited on 3/25/15 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 3/25/15 at 12:05 pm to namvet6566
This thread makes me wonder if my worrying of doing my taxes incorrectly is warranted.
Seriously, after I hit submit on TurboTax, I spend about a month and a half expecting men in black suits and black sunglasses to knock down my door demanding the few hundred dollars I may still owe them.
Seriously, after I hit submit on TurboTax, I spend about a month and a half expecting men in black suits and black sunglasses to knock down my door demanding the few hundred dollars I may still owe them.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 12:08 pm to AubieALUMdvm
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OK - So they just decide to not file taxes and just keep receiving letters or something from the IRS? I'm assuming these are people that are receiving money under the table as previously mentioned? B/c I look forward to filing my taxes so I can get a little money back. nb4H&Rblockguy
They just file exempt so no taxes get taken out of their checks and ignore the letters. I have heard it takes at least 5 years before they actually assign a real person to your case and when that happens they do things like take your assets and garnish your wages. They always could just get a new job and get away with it for a few more years until they get a new officer assigned to them, they could do it forever and never pay any taxes, but that would be a horrible way to live. You would have to be willing to find a new job whenever the IRS got around to tracking you down, you could never own a home, you could never invest in anything etc.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 12:11 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Yes. People can get away with it for a LLLLOOOONNNGGGGG time but eventually they get caught
Didn't that LSU soccer player who tried out as a kicker have an attorney father that got caught not paying taxes for like 25 years?
May have not been her, but I swear I remember reading about an LSU athlete's father killing himself over it.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 12:13 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:I know an older gentlemen who has not filed a tax return in over 40 years (true story). He has been very luck obviously. However, he's in late 60's now and he's not going to get any social security because he's never paid a nickel into it all these years.
How does that even happen? Serious question, because I'm clueless. If come April someone just says "ah, frick it" and doens't pay their taxes, how would they be allowed to do that without getting heat in the next few months? I certainly don't understand how it could happen for multiple years
Posted on 3/25/15 at 12:14 pm to TigerTreyjpg
The IRS is basically a "race to filing" organization when it comes to the dependency exemption of kids. If one spouse claims one they shouldn't have, the Service's position is "you now have a civil claim against that spouse - we're not doing shite about this".
This isn't true at all. Well for me it wasn't. My ex-wife filed 4 yrs in a row claiming our son. It was joint custody and nothing spelled out in the divorce about who claims him for taxes. I provided more than half his support. All I had to do was send a copy of the custody agreement along with his school records with my return. I was able to claim him doing this. I was then audited after these 4 years and provided the same stuff again. She got in trouble and I never had a problem again.
This isn't true at all. Well for me it wasn't. My ex-wife filed 4 yrs in a row claiming our son. It was joint custody and nothing spelled out in the divorce about who claims him for taxes. I provided more than half his support. All I had to do was send a copy of the custody agreement along with his school records with my return. I was able to claim him doing this. I was then audited after these 4 years and provided the same stuff again. She got in trouble and I never had a problem again.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 12:14 pm to StringedInstruments
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This thread makes me wonder if my worrying of doing my taxes incorrectly is warranted. Seriously, after I hit submit on TurboTax, I spend about a month and a half expecting men in black suits and black sunglasses to knock down my door demanding the few hundred dollars I may still owe them.
If you make under 250k or so and don't claim anything crazy you aren't going to get fricked with. Unless you are self-employeed, then they like to frick with you.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 12:19 pm to lsu480
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If you make under 250k or so and don't claim anything crazy you aren't going to get fricked with. Unless you are self-employeed, then they like to frick with you.
the FL IRS is one aggressive bunch of fricks, I got audited by them years ago when I was living in TX, when I got the notice I called to ask if I was going to have to fly my CPA down there and they said no, we have an office where you live, come to find out they're all over the country
Posted on 3/25/15 at 12:21 pm to lsu480
Thought the IRS had only 7 years to audit someone?
Posted on 3/25/15 at 12:45 pm to namvet6566
Al Sharpton?
Posted on 3/25/15 at 1:07 pm to lsu480
I was self-employed last year. :(
Posted on 3/26/15 at 7:38 am to anc
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sister is a tax lawyer, she said it cost the IRS about $30K to do an IRS audit, so they need to know that they can make at least that
I just got audited for $6k. They ended up owing me when I was done with them. Wasting my damn time.
Like $6k total or did the IRS say you forgot about $6k and now with penalties and interest its $66k
Posted on 3/26/15 at 7:38 am to rocket31
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Posted by rocket31
Thought the IRS had only 7 years to audit someone?
Shoot, I thought it was three years
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