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Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:44 am to Slippy
OP is correct.
College Football and Basketball is nothing but a minor league team. It is a joke.
I would like to see the players get paid and waive the educational requirements that are a joke anyway.
College Football and Basketball is nothing but a minor league team. It is a joke.
I would like to see the players get paid and waive the educational requirements that are a joke anyway.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:45 am to Choupique19
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So what about the guys that played college basketball from the 1940s-2000? How did those guys find a way to attend class?
Athletes do go to class. For the most part, their attendance is checked by the coach.
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How did those guys find a way to pass Biology?
I'm sure the same way they do these days... Though the top 10% of college basketball players probably don't take very many biology classes...
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Until the turn of the century, you had 99% of college players that stayed at least through their junior years.
You still have that number or close to it. But like i said, I agree that it sucks that they are leaving early, but just look around college campuses. I'd safely bet that non-athletes leave college more often and earlier than athletes.
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What happened? And why is the NBA so stupid to draft "projects" who usually don't pan out until they are with their second team anyway?
Obviously the NBA is a very money driven sport. NBA executives have decided they can train players on their bench better than colleges can. With the lower wages they pay rookies, it makes sense to take some chances.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:46 am to Slippy
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. It has always been a farm system for the NBA
actually there was about a 10 year period where it wasn't
and even now, it's not really a "farm system". it's a place top-flight talent often chooses to spend a year or 2 prior to going pro
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Kudos to a sleazeball like Calipari for figuring out how to use it to his advantage and win
you're saying calipari figured out how to recruit top talent for the first time in CBB history? tell me more
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And we as fans of all sports wring our hands over recruiting classes filled with dolts like Travonte Valentine who can't pass the simplest of academic curricula. We put these kids on pedestals they don't deserve and can't handle. We are to blame just as much as the kids' teachers and dysfunctional families.
blame for...what?
getting eligible has been an issue for all college players since eligibility rules were implemented. it's nothing new, and bringing up a football player (who must stay 3 years) invalidates the point you tried to make about "one and done" players in basketball
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but it's time we did away with any requirement of college attendance and let these wannabe LeBrons go chase their dreams.
guys like mickey would still go to LSU and leave once they got some sort of an NBA stock. and it's an NBA rule, not an NCAA rule
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95% will fail and end up on the street, and that is their choice.
when the option was on the table, this did not happen. what do you think has changed?
Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:47 am to Slippy
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But these guys don't need college to make that money. They're not really going to college. They're attending classes that have nothing to do with their chosen profession.
wait
so you think college is nothing more than a trade school?
the irony of a person like you making a thread about academic integrity is AMAZING
Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:47 am to ell_13
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Well that's just not true
You had to apply for a "hardship" to leave before your junior year. How many players can you name that entered the NBA/NFL draft before their junior year? I remember one, Chris Jackson.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:48 am to Slippy
I can tell by your post that you are very LSU-centric.
Most athletes that play football/basketball do not end up going pro. You are spoiled by watching a premier athletic school that is actively recruiting top tier athletes that want to go pro.
Most athletes that play football/basketball do not end up going pro. You are spoiled by watching a premier athletic school that is actively recruiting top tier athletes that want to go pro.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:50 am to Slippy
I'm so sick of the education bullshite argument. If the pro prospects don't work out guess what? They can finish college later! I have no problem with them wanting to capitalize on their young bodies and athletic talents when they can. Hey, if after 5 years it doesn't work out they can go back to school and finish their degree
Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:53 am to luvdatigahs
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Can many of us say the same things, didn't think so
Can many of them actually say they've done that?
Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:57 am to Slippy
As a current student athlete if there was a way I could turn professional in running and make a couple hundred thousand tomorrow I'd sign in a heartbeat. I can always come back and finish my degree.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:58 am to MoreOrLes
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College Football and Basketball is nothing but a minor league team. It is a joke.
It's not a joke. Its a multi billion dollar business that we all eat up like it's crack.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:59 am to Pedro
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As a current student athlete if there was a way I could turn professional in running and make a couple hundred thousand tomorrow I'd sign in a heartbeat
ask this guy how
Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:00 am to Slippy
quote:A lot of them didn't care. A lot of them weren't alive. This is a weird thing to say. Where are you from?
His redneck white fan base has the best collection of young black mercenaries in the land. These people didn't want black kids on their team 50 years ago.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:14 am to Kracka
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Let them go pro right out of high school if that is what they want to do. Let the NBA deal with the bad draft picks and the head cases.
Well, I'm pretty sure the NBA decided they'd rather not do that. Sure, it was probably just marketing. How many straight out of high school players went in to the NBA with the notoriety and publicity of LeBron James? Or even remotely close to him in that regard?
Point being, this isn't an NCAA rule. These players aren't required to go to college. They could go to Europe until they're 19, but not many have decided to do that. If the NBA raises the age to 20 then more may decide to do so, but probably not much more.
I don't know how man 1-and-done basketball players return to school to finish their degrees, that number for football players and baseball players that leave early is probably higher. I think if the NBA made the rule 21 or 3 years from high school like the NFL and MLB then basketball graduation numbers would go up.
As it is, the vast majority of college basketball players are staying 4-5 years and graduating.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:36 am to Wayne Campbell
I would guess that the vast majority of players who leave the NFL and NBA are not going back to college to finish their degree. I would imagine alot of that is because they are broke, or aren't interested in it just like they weren't while they were in school.
I am curious to see what happens to the players going pro, once the NBA changes the age limit to 20. I am curious to see if more players choose to go overseas as opposed to college. You'd think they wouldn't want to deal with school. But it may not change much more than it is now.
They should also force the players to take, attend and pass courses based on financial success when the players turn pro. Accounting, money mgmt, investments, etc. Stuff that they need to know, be fluent in, and practice in their life as millionaires. Things that would help them not be broke before they are 30.
I am curious to see what happens to the players going pro, once the NBA changes the age limit to 20. I am curious to see if more players choose to go overseas as opposed to college. You'd think they wouldn't want to deal with school. But it may not change much more than it is now.
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I think if the NBA made the rule 21 or 3 years from high school like the NFL and MLB then basketball graduation numbers would go up.
They should also force the players to take, attend and pass courses based on financial success when the players turn pro. Accounting, money mgmt, investments, etc. Stuff that they need to know, be fluent in, and practice in their life as millionaires. Things that would help them not be broke before they are 30.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:53 am to Slippy
Few things.
Not everyone is a professional prospect. Most scholarship football players at an elite program like LSU have no chance of playing pro football.
Majority major in easy degrees. So do many other regular students that attend.
Regarding Kentucky fans, it is racist for them cheering their great black players because they were once racist for not wanting blacks? So what are they supposed to do? Want blacks or not want blacks?
AAU ball is a problem more from a competitive aspect, especially at the pro level. No one hates people with passion like Kobe anymore.
I am in college , not playing athletics, and I have no interest in college. But you can turn that into a political discussion as to why a four year undergrad is basically a high school diploma these days.
Sounds like you are still melting from LSU basketball.
My post may suck, but yours takes the cake for most likely worst thread of the day on More Sports.
Not everyone is a professional prospect. Most scholarship football players at an elite program like LSU have no chance of playing pro football.
Majority major in easy degrees. So do many other regular students that attend.
Regarding Kentucky fans, it is racist for them cheering their great black players because they were once racist for not wanting blacks? So what are they supposed to do? Want blacks or not want blacks?
AAU ball is a problem more from a competitive aspect, especially at the pro level. No one hates people with passion like Kobe anymore.
I am in college , not playing athletics, and I have no interest in college. But you can turn that into a political discussion as to why a four year undergrad is basically a high school diploma these days.
Sounds like you are still melting from LSU basketball.
My post may suck, but yours takes the cake for most likely worst thread of the day on More Sports.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:57 am to QuiteTheConundrum
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I am in college , not playing athletics, and I have no interest in college.
Why are you wasting the money then?
Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:59 am to hendersonshands
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student athlete was a term created by the NCAA so they wouldn't have to pay the athletes.
Actually, it was invented to deny them worker's comp and health benefits. So... even more sinister.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:01 am to Kracka
I am a senior and a good student, but I am burned out.
I imagine someone who is a terrible student will immediately leave after a year for a 6 figure or 7 figure deal. Why wait to get senioritis
I imagine someone who is a terrible student will immediately leave after a year for a 6 figure or 7 figure deal. Why wait to get senioritis
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:14 am to Slippy
double post
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