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re: ESPN: NBA Personnel rank top 30 PG's
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:50 pm to Epic Cajun
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:50 pm to Epic Cajun
Yeah the SG depth in the league is not so great.
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:57 pm to RTR America
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Yeah the SG depth in the league is not so great.
Top 5 right now
1. James Harden
Ahh who cares about the rest?
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:06 pm to RTR America
Westbrook should be a SG
IMHO
IMHO
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:11 pm to Dr. Shultz
Meh, PGs have morphed over the years. You can be an ultra athletic score first type now, as long as you can get others involved.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:40 pm to Epic Cajun
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If you just ranked guards, 15 of the top 20 would probably be PGs.
I would say guys like Westbrook and Rose as examples are just as much SGs as PGs. Most of the list falls more as combo guards. I don't think you have many guys that play this mainly ball handling distributor role anymore.
Harden is considered a SG, but is not much different than many of the other combo guards.
Since the roles have been so blended with the ideas of combo guards and guard/forwards. I think it makes more sense to just have an overall distinction as a guard. This is why I think it looks so much deeper because they are trying to fit guys into positions that really don't exist anymore.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:45 pm to Colonel Flagg
It's almost time to retire positions all together. I mean sometimes the warriors trot out 4 guys who are between 6'7 and 6'8 along with Curry. Draymond green isn't a "center" and Harrison Barnes isn't a "power forward".
ETA: their starting lineup has basically three guys who can fill the SG, SF, and PF roles on their team.
ETA: their starting lineup has basically three guys who can fill the SG, SF, and PF roles on their team.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:46 pm to Epic Cajun
I love what Jalen Rose says. "Positions were created so casual fans could follow the game." 
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:49 pm to Jcorye1
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Brandon Knight is waaaaaay too low.
This is my first thought when looking at the list.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:52 pm to RTR America
It is just dumb.
It makes more sense to call it a best players under 6'4 or something.
Lebron James has elite dribbling, passing, shooting, and driving to the basket skills. Can we call him a PG?
It makes more sense to call it a best players under 6'4 or something.
Lebron James has elite dribbling, passing, shooting, and driving to the basket skills. Can we call him a PG?
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:59 pm to Colonel Flagg
Ball handlers, slashers, shooters, post players, what you do is more important than what position you play. Rondo and Lillard do not play the same "position".
ETA: another example is Tony Allen and Kevin Durant, both play a wing position (SF/SG) but are completely different players. Or Patrick Beverly and Stephen Curry, there are so many examples of players who play the same named positions but have completely different roles.
ETA: another example is Tony Allen and Kevin Durant, both play a wing position (SF/SG) but are completely different players. Or Patrick Beverly and Stephen Curry, there are so many examples of players who play the same named positions but have completely different roles.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:12 pm to RTR America
quote:Should be in the 12-16 range imo
24. Brandon Knight
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:15 pm to RTR America
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7. Mike Conley
Too low
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9. Tony Parker
Too low
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10. Jeff Teague
Too low
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14. Ty Lawson
Too high
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17. Ricky Rubio
Too high
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25. Isaiah Thomas
Too low
Posted on 3/25/15 at 2:10 am to LSU Piston
Tony Parker has been terrible this season. If anything he should be lower.
Rose should've been left off altogether. Who knows where he's gonna be going forward? He wasn't exactly lighting the world on fire this season before he was injured again.
It's often said that scouts define a player's position by who they'll be defending in the league. Of course that introduces a bit of a chicken/egg scenario but, generally speaking, I don't expect to see Harden guarding any of these guys for any extended period of time.
Rose should've been left off altogether. Who knows where he's gonna be going forward? He wasn't exactly lighting the world on fire this season before he was injured again.
It's often said that scouts define a player's position by who they'll be defending in the league. Of course that introduces a bit of a chicken/egg scenario but, generally speaking, I don't expect to see Harden guarding any of these guys for any extended period of time.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 2:38 am to imraged
Parker is picking it up. He had a good March. Averaged like 18 and 6 on 56% shooting, and the Spurs have gone 8-3 during that period.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 2:45 am to RTR America
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ESPN: NBA Personnel rank top 30 PG's
I love what Jalen Rose says. "Positions were created so casual fans could follow the game."
Yea, it's so true.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 7:32 am to RTR America
quote:They've become pretty much obsolete in today's game.
I love what Jalen Rose says. "Positions were created so casual fans could follow the game."
Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:18 am to TotesMcGotes
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The Deron Williams fall from grace has been unbelievable.
That was the first thing I noticed as well.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:24 am to Colonel Flagg
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Lebron James has elite dribbling, passing, shooting, and driving to the basket skills. Can we call him a PG?
Technically, Gronk and Jimmy Graham play the same position. Julian Edleman and Dez Bryant play the same position. Hell Tom Brady and RG3 play the same position.
Positions in all sports are subject for debate.
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