re: Chavis and the bowl game

ND played a two-TE set from start to finish. LSU played in the nickel from start to finish.

Draw whatever conclusion you want from that.

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its ALL about you poor pathetic LSU fans who got jobbed by someone who was sick and tired of being overworked because of a shitty offense

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At least you are finally admitting you're not really an LSU fan.

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dukke v

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he had one of the best offenses in the history of LSU just a season prior and his defense shite the bed. LSU was among tops for 3rd down conversations that season too..

so get real. you are an idiot to say he was sit and tired of being overworked.

LSU made Chavis, don't even get it twisted. Just as they made Bo Pelini. Chavis was beyond fortunate to have the elite talent at his disposal year in and year out.

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ND played a two-TE set from start to finish. LSU played in the nickel from start to finish.

Draw whatever conclusion you want from that.

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Example of that:


Man press on first down in 4-2-5 against a power pistol formation.


There were so many bad play calls that game but there were also awesome adjustments. Just watch this sequence of events at the end of the game:

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Chavis calls a cover 3-esque zone blitz out of 4-2-5 and ND brings 4 stacked wide receivers. (They had been doing this all game)


Original play:



While adjusting, you can see Jamal is confused and thinks he's playing cover 2 until Jalen Collins sticks him in man coverage (with some help from Corey Raymond). Kwon locks onto his man with Tre White and Martin covers the middle of the field with Beckwith.

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Jalen Collins got beat by Fuller in man coverage but Fuller dropped what should have been an easy catch

The only reason I can think of as to why Chavis would call soft zone here would be because of Notre Dame's huge flankers on the left side of the field, but on the next play, LSU is in zone coverage against a similar personnel package and Notre Dame converts.

Whether it's the typical Chavis bend but don't break defense or him throwing the towel in, the players were trying to unfrick it as much as they could.

It's incongruent to call sunshine pumpers "spoiled fans" and "entitled." the real meaning of being an "entitled," "spoiled fan" would be a person who thinks the team isn't living up to their (the "spoiled fan's") expectations.

case in point, you're defending Chavis in this thread because, to you, what's gone on is an indictment of Miles. but do you really think that Miles was aware of Chavis' dealings with A&M on the day of the bowl game? is it Miles' fault, somehow, that Chavis was so dumbass in the timing of his departure that he's suing his current and former employers over the buyout clause that he owes, but doesn't want to pay?

and the offense wasn't good in the bowl game, excluding that LF was dominant? is your POV really that you can make the case that the offense sucks, provided you are able to exclude when it's good?

if you are not an alter troll, then you are a certifiable crazy person who should be under the daily care of a mental health professional.

and was the "SU fan" supposed to be some sort of racist comment? because I otherwise have no idea where you were going with that one.

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Sorry you can't handle the truth

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The only one not handling the truth is you, PJ. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but when someone disagrees with yours, you always say the same thing:

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"Sorry you can't handle the truth"

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I just do not like spoiled fans that seem they are entitled

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How is anyone in this thread acting like they are entitled to anything?

Everyone is entitled to have an opinion, that includes you, and I don't see anyone doing anything that's inappropriate. They just have their opinions too.

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LSU can do no wrong

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I haven't seen anyone in this thread say that LSU is immune to making mistakes.

I have seen them say, and I agree with them, that Chavis didn't call the game, defensively, like we are all used to seeing. That's a fair enough statement.


Now if you have an ax to grind with Miles, that's totally up to you, then that's all you.


None or at the most, a very few amount of defensive players knew that Chavis had already been in talks with Sumlin even just before the bowl game. They were ticked at him as well. You're on this board enough to have read that.

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The offense wasn't that good either. I mean take out what LF7 did and you don't have much... So I guess we should be all over Cam too huh????

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Cam has nothing to do with this thread. Remember the title of it?



Grow up.

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Go pelini coached the bcs title game and everyone in the country knew he was taking the job. It worked out fine.

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That was all out in the open, Pelini was taking a HC job with Miles' blessing. Pelini wasn't a disgruntled employee who was quitting. And he wasn't going to a division rival. Chavis was apparently pissed off or at least didn't give a damn, and was also being dishonest about it. How do you let a guy like that coach another minute, let alone through the bowl?

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This deal seems like it happened behind the scenes.

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On a football coaching staff, if someone, particularly one of the coordinators, isn't doing his job, it should be pretty easy for the head coach to tell.

LSU lost 10 pts in the bowl game..the Kragthorpe TD, and another of many, many, missed field goals. The players were demoralized that their mentor was being allowed to walk rather than fix his contract and they sounded off about it. We lost some key recruits, Mack went where Chavis went, Leo Lewis was still in play, Malik and CeCe Jefferson were visiting, Chavis went hard after 4 Tenn players, 2 DEs - Kyle Phillips, Dylan Jackson, and 2 CBs Ugo Amadi (a commit) and Justin Martin, and media says his leaving removed the leverage to get a couple of juniors to return.


Alleva and Miles knew Chief, and other coaches, were being publicly pursued by A&M and other programs for weeks prior to the Bowl game. Alleva would not even meet with him about the "Miles clause." A contract issue became a respect issue, and then a money issue. Miles was asked on Dec 22 about A&M hiring him and he said "I have no real feeling there...They (his coaches)are a talented group of men and they have opportunities." Tigerdroppings: Video Les Miles Dec 22 Press LINK Conference on Chavis possibly going to A&M.
Miles also talks about LSU being the 5th most profitable FBS team and it is only good because LSU attracts quality coaches with the "highest paid staff".

I don't hear any vitriol or sour grapes coming from Miles, Chavis, or A&M. The coaching carousel is a business and fair market value means there have been more big moves this year and pay raises in the FBS and NFL than usual. Adam Henry recruiting Tyrone Johnson and then leaving without telling him the day after NSD is just the way it is...business and non-disclosure.



Sumlin says Chavis is his top recruit and it looks like he is really doing well there. A&M no longer has a dire need for a top DC and Chavis is happy, has a better contract, and is the focus of the program's future. There is nothing, not even a lawsuit, that Alleva can do now to change that. Chavis was the top SEC DC and he had to know more about modern offenses, their evolution and effectiveness, and how to counter them than anyone. Top SEC DCs/OCs command Muschamp money, 1.7MM, and it is climbing. A&M was prepared to go to 2MM and with incentives Chavis should get that. Top FBS schools are cash cows and help fund the institutions. And with the budget fiasco and class and faculty cuts, LSU football cannot afford to quit appreciating..only in LA where state-funded education is considered wasteful big government spending.

Alleva's 6 month "Miles Clause" Chavis could not accept. As far as it also being about Cameron and the offense I did not believe much of that until I saw a bunch of docs posted online and then read Kleinpeter's article, and Justin Vincent's quote from Dec 10. And to those "3rd and Chavis folks", Miles has trailed in 50 of his games in the fourth quarter, the big games, putting the pressure on Chavis to get the stops and he did against Ole Miss despite two late INTs, 2X in the final 1 min and 18 seconds against ALA with LSU enjoying a 2:1 TOP and not able to score on a fumble at the 6 for the win, then Ark set a 40 yr low. In the last 4 SEC games we had 3 passing TDs, 4 Ints, a couple of fumbles, 1 rushing TD, and that is the lowest PPM scoring efficiency in the nation by a huge margin. TOP does not mean anything if you have an inept ground game vs an explosive offense. LSU was 9th this year in TOP and 5th in Scoring Defense, with the D having a higher scoring efficiency than the O, 49th in TOP in 2013. Oregon both years was around 118 and 114 and still hanging 550 yds and 60 pts on everyone. TOP for LSU meant the D gave the O the ball and the O could not score.