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Posted on 3/23/15 at 8:52 pm
Posted by SomethingLikeA
Member since Jul 2013
1112 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 8:52 pm
I saw a post last week regarding some ridiculous guidelines for car buying.

Needed to make $150,000 per year just to buy a $20,000 car.

My question to the MB is did I buy too much car? I guess car value is irrelevant and loan is more important factor. Car value is 100% of salary. However, monthly payment is 13% of my gross monthly income.

13% doesn't seem TOO high to me. Yes I invest in personal trading account and i contribute to 401k and roth.

What's your thoughts oh great MBers?
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 9:00 pm
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58089 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 8:58 pm to
It sure seems like too much car to me. Every person has a different opinion on thes things though.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 8:58 pm to
Sounds high to me. shite either you bought a ballin arse car or don't make a whole lot.

When I buy a new truck I'm shooting for 30-40% total/yearly gross
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 9:34 pm
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13649 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 9:03 pm to
I can't put an exact number on it, but knowing that I have to work a whole year just to pay for a depreciating asset like a car would make me sick to my stomach (assuming you're not a college student working part time).
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 9:14 pm to
quote:

Car value is 100% of salary.


That's way too much car hoss.

quote:

monthly payment is 13% of my gross monthly income.


That's also way too much car.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 9:18 pm to
My first new car was probably 60% of my salary at the time, but even that was probably too high
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
3694 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 9:26 pm to
It should be 30-40 percent of salary. My first car was 25 percent of yearly salary which is where I like it to be.
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 9:28 pm to
How long is your loan for?
Posted by SomethingLikeA
Member since Jul 2013
1112 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 9:30 pm to
30-40? Now that seems really high

If that's true. Im doing really well at only 13%.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 9:34 pm to
I think he meant 30-40 of annual, not in terms of monthly payments


100 is too high, unless you still live under someone else's roof or something
Posted by SomethingLikeA
Member since Jul 2013
1112 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 9:35 pm to
54 months
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 9:38 pm to
something in your math doesn't add up

You must be paying more than 13% in monthly gross

Posted by SomethingLikeA
Member since Jul 2013
1112 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 9:51 pm to
Let's assume one of you ballers makes 100k.

8333/month gross

Car note is 1083/mo.

Insurance is covered outside of the 8333. 1083 is total obligation.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32368 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 9:55 pm to
He may have put a decent amount down.

I think 50% of gross salary is decent, I'm currently at 28% and my monthly note is 5% of gross monthly income.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32368 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 10:02 pm to
If you make 100k and buy a 100k car, you'd have to put down 45k to get a monthly payment that's only 13% of your monthly gross (financing at 54 months). That sounds like a terrible decision.
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:06 pm to
Yeah, but at 1083 a month for 54 months is a 60k car. Not anywhere near 100% of your salary if you make 100k a year.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:15 pm to
My guidelines for maximums are 59% of annual income for a car and 3x annual income for a house.

Those aren't targets, they are caps.

100% is insanity.
Posted by Lil Man
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
1488 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:35 am to
That seems a little high. Although, when I bought my truck my note came out to 5% of my monthly income and I made 3 payments per month to pay it off in 2 years. So, I was paying 15% and it wasn't too painful. Mostly because I knew I was way ahead on payments if something came up and I didn't pay on it for a couple months.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:16 am to
The more expensive the car, the more expensive the repairs.


Buying anything more than standard cars/truck/suv (Sonata/Camry etc) is stupid unless you have zero money concerns. If you get some thrill/joy out of it, then it is reasonable to pull from your entertainment/joy part of your budget.


You make your budget then fit your car to your budget. Budget should not expand. If you are willing to sacrifice non essential spending in other categories, go get it tiger
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3662 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:41 am to
This is simply MY opinion on the matter, but...

What exactly do you need a car that costs more than 500/month for? Regardless of income. And honestly, I think 500 is high. At our house we have a nice used (42K miles at purchase) SUV and a nice used crew cab truck (11K miles at purchase) and the notes combined on those are less than 700.

Do people really pay that much for car notes that depreciate like crazy?

ETA: I take that back, a little. 35,000 at 3% for 6 years is around $530, which isn't unreasonable...but I think you need to make a lot more than what the typical person driving these types of vehicles actually makes....
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 8:54 am
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