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Johnny Jones and Player Development - Positive
Posted on 3/23/15 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 3/23/15 at 6:59 pm
We all saw the huge leap that Quarterman took from just last year.
I think we can all agree that Martin and O'bryant greatly improved under him.
But I was really impressed to see how Gray was able to adjust to his new role after the MSU game. He started playing under control and was an asset to the team instead of a liability becoming a big part of the team's push to make the tourney.
I'm excited to see our players continue to improve under him, especially Gray, Patterson, and Robinson.
I think we can all agree that Martin and O'bryant greatly improved under him.
But I was really impressed to see how Gray was able to adjust to his new role after the MSU game. He started playing under control and was an asset to the team instead of a liability becoming a big part of the team's push to make the tourney.
I'm excited to see our players continue to improve under him, especially Gray, Patterson, and Robinson.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 7:00 pm
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Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:06 pm to TigerBait1127
I for one havent questioned how he and the assistants have done as far as developing players.
The X's and O's of the game is where I question.
The X's and O's of the game is where I question.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:08 pm to TigerBait1127
He has plenty timeouts to think about it over the off-season.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:10 pm to Ryan3232
A lot of you people question his X's and O's but probably can't even Draw up a play on less than 30 seconds.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:11 pm to UnAnon
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A lot of you people question his X's and O's but probably can't even Draw up a play on less than 30 seconds.
I'm sure a lot of us arent mechanics either but can recognize when a car is in trouble when it's spewing white smoke out of the exhaust.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:20 pm to TigerBait1127
He is strong at player development. I think his defensive coaching and x's n o's are his weaksuit. He is pretty lights out everywhere else.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:49 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
Growth summer with teacher Dale!
Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:51 pm to TigerBait1127
he's terrific against the press, would have played a big part against nova
Posted on 3/23/15 at 8:43 pm to S
Also the improvement of Hornsby, from his time at UNCA, after his redshirt year. He has talked about how much better he has gotten, and being able to diversify his offensive game.
With one of or both Mickey and Martin staying, combined with Victor and Simmons, only need 10-20 minutes combined out of Malone, Robinson, and Epps. If you don't have a 4th big that can come in and atleast bridge 4-5 minute stretches you will get tripped up in the tourney eventually.
With one of or both Mickey and Martin staying, combined with Victor and Simmons, only need 10-20 minutes combined out of Malone, Robinson, and Epps. If you don't have a 4th big that can come in and atleast bridge 4-5 minute stretches you will get tripped up in the tourney eventually.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 8:53 pm to TigerBait1127
Maybe the coaching staff can eventually teach one of them to foul with five seconds left and a three point lead.
Oh wait, nvrmnd.
Oh wait, nvrmnd.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 8:55 pm to soccerfüt
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Maybe the coaching staff can eventually teach one of them to foul with five seconds left and a three point lead.
Some should tell Pop that too, except he actually had a foul to give.
I don't agree with that strategy either, but some great coaches don't foul there.
And that has absolutely nothing to do with this topic
Posted on 3/23/15 at 9:04 pm to TigerBait1127
I realize that I was off-topic but I too agree that JJ probably isn't bad at player development, unfortunately that is only one part of his responsibilities as HBC at LSU. He's couldn't spell "strategery" if you gave him all ten letters in the right order and told him it was done. That will result in his squads underachieving as a rule.
Ws & Ls are the primary things that matter in his chosen world.
Ws & Ls are the primary things that matter in his chosen world.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 9:11 pm to soccerfüt
quote:This shite makes zero sense.
He's couldn't spell "strategery" if you gave him all ten letters in the right order and told him it was done. That will result in his squads underachieving as a rule.
Ws & Ls are the primary things that matter in his chosen world.
what coach doesnt care about Wins and Losses? Thats all that matters.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 9:28 pm to TigerBait1127
The improvement Quarterman, Mickey, and Martin had from year one was impressive. Clearly the staff did a great job getting Patterson ready for the college level fast.
The only head scratcher has been the development of Odo. I never thought LSU would suffer that much Deng Deng not qualifying, but he turned out being a contributor for Baylor...more than what Odo could do for us at least
The only head scratcher has been the development of Odo. I never thought LSU would suffer that much Deng Deng not qualifying, but he turned out being a contributor for Baylor...more than what Odo could do for us at least
Posted on 3/23/15 at 9:29 pm to tgr4ever
You might (correctly) say "This shite makes no sense to me."
I never implied JJ doesn't care about W/Ls.
I said exactly the opposite.
He is in over his head as to the strategic subtleties of the game. Because of that limitation, he will never realize anywhere near to the maximum potential (in wins) of the talent of his squads.
Just because you have poor comprension skills does not make my opinion invalid.
I never implied JJ doesn't care about W/Ls.
I said exactly the opposite.
He is in over his head as to the strategic subtleties of the game. Because of that limitation, he will never realize anywhere near to the maximum potential (in wins) of the talent of his squads.
Just because you have poor comprension skills does not make my opinion invalid.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 3/23/15 at 10:14 pm to soccerfüt
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Ws & Ls are the primary things that matter in his chosen world.
Well he certainly hasome the program trending in the right direcation in terms of W/Ls. Doesn't he also have the most wins in LSU history over the first 3 years?
And be less of an a-hole
Posted on 3/23/15 at 10:49 pm to TigerBait1127
'Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.'
The SEC West is not the ACC of the late 1990s. Winning in it is not impossible for a program with a coach of his caliber. Jones is at least competent in recruiting and motivating, but not good at Xs and Os. He won't learn that over the off-season, he's 54 years-old now and been around basketball his entire life.
If he stays at LSU, the fan base will have to get used to some frustrating losses like we saw this year out of a team with talent enough to go to WVU and win. And in the SEC and NCAA Tournaments, this weakness will be tough to work through.
And be less judgmental.
The SEC West is not the ACC of the late 1990s. Winning in it is not impossible for a program with a coach of his caliber. Jones is at least competent in recruiting and motivating, but not good at Xs and Os. He won't learn that over the off-season, he's 54 years-old now and been around basketball his entire life.
If he stays at LSU, the fan base will have to get used to some frustrating losses like we saw this year out of a team with talent enough to go to WVU and win. And in the SEC and NCAA Tournaments, this weakness will be tough to work through.
And be less judgmental.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 10:54 pm to soccerfüt
quote:
You might (correctly) say
quote:
comprension
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:08 pm to OC504
He said my statement made no sense to him. ("This shite makes zero sense to me.") He might be correct in saying that. I have no way of knowing if he understood my meaning or not. My original premise could be valid but he only claims that it doesn't make any sense to him. So if I was right, he was right yet wrong.
I love the English language.
And the word is "Comprehension". Sorry for the incorrect spelling.
Happy now?
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:16 pm to soccerfüt
So are you giving CJJ any credit for the wins @ Arky and WVU?
Because to say he played a part in our losses and not our wins is pretty unfair imo.
Because to say he played a part in our losses and not our wins is pretty unfair imo.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 11:17 pm
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