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re: Official Better Call Saul - Episode 8 "RICO"

Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:12 am to
Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:12 am to
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She knows that Mike can get her more and she also knows she has the power to keep Mike away from his granddaughter.


I think it was more to show how Mike ends up where he is in Breaking Bad, giving all his money to his grand daughter.
Posted by beardedzeus
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:15 am to
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Mike's daughter-in-law


IWHI
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:54 am to
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I'd say Chuck's old firm gets wind of the case and says Chuck is still a partner at the firm

This was the one 'WTF" moment in this week's episode. Jimmy is smart enough to know Chuck is still a partner in a law firm and any kind of monetary reward derived through his efforts will be subject to his partnership agreement.

It just doesn't make sense for him not to see this steamroller heading his way.
Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:35 pm to
Yea, I was screaming at the TV saying NOO JIMMY NO!

But I think it shows that his whole life Jimmy has needed his brother's approval and isn't quite confident enough to do it alone.

It just sucks for him that his brother is a typical high level lawyer and is blinded by the "good of the firm" than himself and his family. Also looks like his girl has that same issue as well.

ARGH!
Posted by dr smartass phd
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:44 pm to
Hamlin is taking over Pete Campbell's Grimy Litle Pimp title.
Posted by Jones
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:59 pm to
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This was the one 'WTF" moment in this week's episode. Jimmy is smart enough to know Chuck is still a partner in a law firm and any kind of monetary reward derived through his efforts will be subject to his partnership agreement.



Jimmy mentions to the lady that he can work sidejobs away from the company and still be fine.

She mentions how it doesnt hold up when a certain money amount is reached.

Maybe there is some confusion there
Posted by htownjeep
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:18 pm to
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Jimmy mentions to the lady that he can work sidejobs away from the company and still be fine.

She mentions how it doesnt hold up when a certain money amount is reached.

Maybe there is some confusion there
Either way, I think this case is what drives Jimmy to break bad. Either his brother sells him out and sides with HHM or Kim stabs him in the back and feeds Hamlin info about the case and he takes all of it somehow.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:23 pm to
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Maybe there is some confusion there

Very possible but when you're confused with large amounts of money on the table its best to be prudent than careless. Doesn't seem like a move Jimmy would have made. Once they used Chuck's code I knew where this would lead.
Posted by SnoopALoop
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:35 pm to
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Either way, I think this case is what drives Jimmy to break bad. Either his brother sells him out and sides with HHM or Kim stabs him in the back and feeds Hamlin info about the case and he takes all of it somehow.



This.
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7298 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:38 pm to
I like the show, but it does't grab me like Breaking Bad. I think the acting is top notch, I like the music. I dunno, the thing is -- it's kind of a character study, just following this hustling, kind of sleazy lawyer around. Breaking Bad had a lot more of a drive to it -- this kind of meanders. Of course, that's because Walter was all about getting money, then power. I don't know what motivates Jimmy -- I think he wants money, but I think also he wants to do the right thing. He wanted to frick over HHM, but he threw the Kettlemans back at them to help Kim. He's not ripping off those old people and it was Chuck who urged him to squeeze Sandpiper for the big bucks.

And to the commentator who earlier said something about how you can tell Jimmy doesn't get any of that money from a Sandpiper settlement based on how he was living on Breaking Bad -- he was doing a lot better on that show than on this show. He had a real office (granted it was in a shitty strip mall), he had a nice car and dough to run a lot of TV ads. Somehow he raises his game over the years.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:39 pm to
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Either his brother sells him out


I can see this being the impetus for the name change.


Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:51 pm to
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Somehow he raises his game over the years.


He does it by becoming a *criminal* lawyer. It might be a little too cute if SandPiper turned out to be a front. Mike could well be the gateway thug.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:52 pm to
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Very possible but when you're confused with large amounts of money on the table its best to be prudent than careless. Doesn't seem like a move Jimmy would have made.

i think this is exactly the type of move he'd make

he's a low-level lawyer who may have stumbled onto a 7-figure fee. he's blinded by the dolla dolla bills

i've seen lawyers lose their mind over silly cases they thought were worth a ton of money
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:59 pm to
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he's a low-level lawyer who may have stumbled onto a 7-figure fee. he's blinded by the dolla dolla bills

That's a good explanation and I would agree with your position except for Jimmy's absolute hatred of Hamlin and his law firm. That alone makes his carelessness questionable. IMHO there is no way he would allow himself to become so fixated on a payout that he would deliver that payout to his demises.
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 2:03 pm to
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That's a good explanation and I would agree with your position except for Jimmy's absolute hatred of Hamlin and his law firm.
AND the fact that he's always trying to impress Chuck. He wants Chuck to see him as a good lawyer and not "slippin' Jimmy".
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7612 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 2:04 pm to
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i think this is exactly the type of move he'd make
You say potato, I say spoliation.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 2:08 pm to
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AND the fact that he's always trying to impress Chuck. He wants Chuck to see him as a good lawyer and not "slippin' Jimmy".

I think that's probably where Jimmy was blinded and didn't see the pit he was running towards. There's no doubt he was thrilled to have his brother's approval and support. Even Kim's warning didn't deter him and it should have.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50277 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 3:57 pm to
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she immediately switches to "it's just a drop in the bucket" mode implying she needs more


Yep. Then he goes looking for more "work." It's clear this is what creates the guy we see in BB.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50277 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 4:02 pm to
I don't know about everyone else, but the whole "elder law" case really gets under my skin. It infuriates me to no end that old people get screwed over like this by people who should be caring for them.

I think this whole case gets screwed up somehow but I really hope it doesn't. I want Jimmy to take it to that company in the worst way.

OTOH, if he does "take it to them" I can see the old folks homes all shutting down and then all of those old folks are out on the street. He could end up dropping the case because he doesn't want to be the cause of old people homelessness.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 4:07 pm to
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Mike's daughter-in-law




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