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Lead prosecutor apologizes for role in sending man to death row
Posted on 3/20/15 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 3/20/15 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 3/20/15 at 6:56 pm to PuntBamaPunt
This is the first, and probably will be the last, time that I have publicly voiced an opinion on any of your editorials. Quite frankly, I believe many of your editorials avoid the hard questions on a current issue in order not to be too controversial. I congratulate you here, though, because you have taken a clear stand on what needs to be done in the name of justice.
Glenn Ford should be completely compensated to every extent possible because of the flaws of a system that effectively destroyed his life. The audacity of the state's effort to deny Mr. Ford any compensation for the horrors he suffered in the name of Louisiana justice is appalling.
I know of what I speak.
Glenn Ford should be completely compensated to every extent possible because of the flaws of a system that effectively destroyed his life. The audacity of the state's effort to deny Mr. Ford any compensation for the horrors he suffered in the name of Louisiana justice is appalling.
I know of what I speak.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 6:59 pm to PuntBamaPunt
Fancy presentation by The Times, but LOL at The Times being the Shreveport Times.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:00 pm to PuntBamaPunt
Wow. Most prosecutors will never admit they were wrong in a case like this. There are plenty of cases of inmates exonerated by DNA where the DA, judges, etc refuse to admit they were wrong. Props to him.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:06 pm to PuntBamaPunt
If a man is found innocent and was sentenced to death, the lead prosecutor should have to be executed. That way theyll always be sure to have their facts strait.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:08 pm to SEClint
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If a man is found innocent and was sentenced to death, the lead prosecutor should have to be executed. That way theyll always be sure to have their facts strait.
Yeah that makes sense since you know a jury decides their innocence or guilt not the lead prosecutor.
This post was edited on 3/20/15 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:09 pm to SEClint
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If a man is found innocent and was sentenced to death, the lead prosecutor should have to be executed. That way theyll always be sure to have their facts strait.
No, that way we will never have anyone willing to be a prosecutor.
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strait
Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:09 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Throw the jury and judge in too. Kill everyone.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:11 pm to foshizzle
Shhh..I'm trying to troll here, and you're usually cool.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:17 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Yeah that makes sense since you know a jury decides their innocence or guilt not the lead prosecutor.
The prosecutor has this legal obligation to hand over exculpatory evidence to the defense. In many of these cases, the prosecutors deliberately withheld evidence that they knew could have exonerated the defendant.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:30 pm to PuntBamaPunt
That was powerful. Very powerful.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:32 pm to PuntBamaPunt
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In 1984, I was 33 years old. I was arrogant, judgmental, narcissistic and very full of myself. I was not as interested in justice as I was in winning. To borrow a phrase from Al Pacino in the movie "And Justice for All," "Winning became everything."
After the death verdict in the Ford trial, I went out with others and celebrated with a few rounds of drinks. That's sick. I had been entrusted with the duty to seek the death of a fellow human being, a very solemn task that certainly did not warrant any "celebration."
In my rebuttal argument during the penalty phase of the trial, I mocked Mr. Ford, stating that this man wanted to stay alive so he could be given the opportunity to prove his innocence. I continued by saying this should be an affront to each of you jurors, for he showed no remorse, only contempt for your verdict.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:33 pm to foshizzle
It's stuff like this that makes me think deep thoughts.
The idea that everyone involved in a case should be very careful, wisely weighing the evidence to come to an accurate conclusion is very appealing. The problem is that hardly anyone is capable of doing this.
More often, people quickly arrive at a conclusion based on their pre-existing beliefs and are great at picking apart logical inconsistencies of those who disagree but can't see the flaws in their own positions. So we now have a criminal justice system built around debate in front of a jury (and hopefully judge) who presumably don't have any pre-existing involvement. Of course, attorneys who do jury trials are quite aware of techniques to steer juror decision-making but at least that's an obstacle in their way.
I'd love it if we could have a justice system that could depend on people to carefully weigh evidence for such crimes - but we can't.
The idea that everyone involved in a case should be very careful, wisely weighing the evidence to come to an accurate conclusion is very appealing. The problem is that hardly anyone is capable of doing this.
More often, people quickly arrive at a conclusion based on their pre-existing beliefs and are great at picking apart logical inconsistencies of those who disagree but can't see the flaws in their own positions. So we now have a criminal justice system built around debate in front of a jury (and hopefully judge) who presumably don't have any pre-existing involvement. Of course, attorneys who do jury trials are quite aware of techniques to steer juror decision-making but at least that's an obstacle in their way.
I'd love it if we could have a justice system that could depend on people to carefully weigh evidence for such crimes - but we can't.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 8:03 pm to PuntBamaPunt
as I see it, the prosecutor's job is to try as hard as he can for a conviction...the defense team's job is to try as hard as he can for acquittal...and the jury's job is to try as hard as they can to see which one is correct...
as I see it, the system failed this guy and not the prosecutor...he was doing what he is paid to do...
as I see it, the system failed this guy and not the prosecutor...he was doing what he is paid to do...
Posted on 3/20/15 at 8:06 pm to PuntBamaPunt
Excellent read. Well written and powerful
Posted on 3/20/15 at 8:12 pm to Spankum
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as I see it, the prosecutor's job is to try as hard as he can for a conviction.
Technically, no. This is from the American Bar Association's General Standards for Prosecutors.
Standard 3- 1.2 The Function of the Prosecutor
(c) The duty of the prosecutor is to seek justice, not merely to convict.
They are (at least nominally) governed by ethical standards. If they know someone is likely innocent and have evidence suggesting it, they are required to hand it over to the defense even if it means losing the case.
This is pretty necessary since some defense attorneys, particularly public defenders, do the bare minimum.
This post was edited on 3/20/15 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 3/20/15 at 8:15 pm to Spankum
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as I see it, the prosecutor's job is to try as hard as he can for a conviction...the defense team's job is to try as hard as he can for acquittal...and the jury's job is to try as hard as they can to see which one is correct...
If you had read the article he talks about not doing his job by not pursuing credible leads and information that suggested there was a different culprit.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 8:25 pm to REG861
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Yeah that makes sense since you know a jury decides their innocence or guilt not the lead prosecutor.
The prosecutor has this legal obligation to hand over exculpatory evidence to the defense. In many of these cases, the prosecutors deliberately withheld evidence that they knew could have exonerated the defendant.
This is a common occurrence and in these cases the DA should go straight to jail.
The same should go for lying cops.
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