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UVA student arrest and injury.

Posted on 3/20/15 at 4:35 am
Posted by Redbone
my castle
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 4:35 am
cbsnews link

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Sullivan said she is deeply concerned over the incident, but cautioned that school officials "have not yet clarified all of the details" surrounding the event. She said they are seeking to do so "as quickly as possible."
This post was edited on 3/20/15 at 11:41 am
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 3/20/15 at 4:59 am to
Looks like he fell right on to the cops hands repeatily.
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 6:01 am to
A report I heard on the radio said that the kid was being detained by ABC agents, including one officer who was holding the kid's arm. As they were questioning the kid, he tried to pull his arm away from the officer and things escalated.

I think ABC agents are about on par with mall security cops but here you have a kid who was probably drunk and definitely breaking the law and then he physically escalated a confrontation with Law enforcement officers. Play stupid games...
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18893 posts
Posted on 3/20/15 at 6:11 am to
This is what the news is reporting and, unlike when a story is obviously way off one way or the other, sounds like what probably happened.

Here is the thing, while the police have the right to detain and question this guy relative to their investigation (MIP) they don't have the right to use unwarranted force against him. Grabbing him by the arm was unwarranted. It would have pissed me off as well.

Suspecting a crime does not allow them to lay hands on him.

That being said, the prudent thing would have been to just stand there and let him do it but that is neither here nor there.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 6:39 am to
The involved police are using the standard keywords, placing all blame on the kid. It is classic blue-wall, cya.

The kid is saying he was not drunk, bellicose, and did nothing wrong. Classic criminal with a victim mentality looking for a payout.

The truth is somewhere in between and took the worst arse kicking here.
Posted by mikelowery1911
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
896 posts
Posted on 3/20/15 at 6:44 am to
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The kid is saying he was not drunk, bellicose, and did nothing wrong. Classic criminal with a victim mentality looking for a payout.


He is an honors student at UVA. Classic criminal if you are thinking of Bernie Madoff
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39025 posts
Posted on 3/20/15 at 6:57 am to
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He is an honors student at UVA.


This does not mean he was not drunk and breaking the law. It does not mean he did not do what the ABC agents said he did.

It also does not mean the agents are not lying too.

Are you thinking this was a white collar incident or did I miss where Bernie Madoff was brawling outside of a bar with state commissioned LEO's? Or is it possible he did not do anything wrong, based on his GPA?
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 6:58 am to
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He is an honors student at UVA.


He is such good boy, doh!!1 leave him alone!
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 6:58 am to
quote:


I think ABC agents are about on par with mall security cops but here you have a kid who was probably drunk and


ABC agent tried to detain a guy I know without identifying himself and the agent is the one who came out looking like this kid
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:00 am to
And also, I know plenty of assholes who we're honor grads, UVA isn't as tough academically as led to believe.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:44 am to
ABC at UVA has a bad reputation. A couple of years ago they arrested (rather forcibly so) a sorority chick for MIP and it turned out she just had mineral water and could prove it.
Posted by Palmetto08
Member since Sep 2012
4048 posts
Posted on 3/20/15 at 8:18 am to
I'm tired of this bull shite. Watch any episode of COPS and the majority of the perps (white, black, latino, etc.) are bloodied due to a fall, escape/bitten by dog or resisting arrest.

Of course the media, like Trayvon Martin's innocent baby picture, will show the bloodied face of the unarmed black UVA honor student. It's getting out of control.
This post was edited on 3/20/15 at 8:23 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20868 posts
Posted on 3/20/15 at 8:20 am to
quote:

ABC at UVA has a bad reputation. A couple of years ago they arrested (rather forcibly so) a sorority chick for MIP and it turned out she just had mineral water and could prove it.


Thats only half the story... She walked out of the grocery store with water jugs, ABC chased after her without identifying themselves. She calls 911 thinking she was being mugged and speeds off. High speed pursuit occurs, and she eventually gets pulled over with guns drawn. In addition, she also got charged with assaulting two police officers.

LINK
Posted by Palmetto08
Member since Sep 2012
4048 posts
Posted on 3/20/15 at 8:21 am to
quote:

ABC at UVA has a bad reputation. A couple of years ago they arrested (rather forcibly so) a sorority chick for MIP and it turned out she just had mineral water and could prove it.




Oh the horrors!!!

Edit didn't see second part of story. That's pretty bad.
This post was edited on 3/20/15 at 8:23 am
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 8:22 am to
quote:

A couple of years ago they arrested (rather forcibly so) a sorority chick for MIP and it turned out she just had mineral water and could prove it.


All you need to be considered guilty for an MIP in Louisiana is to have a red solo cup.
Posted by ChineseBandit66
Denver, Colorado
Member since Jul 2013
1794 posts
Posted on 3/20/15 at 8:23 am to
quote:

Classic criminal with a victim mentality looking for a payout.


What are you a cop? Cops suck baw.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36397 posts
Posted on 3/20/15 at 8:55 am to
quote:

I'm tired of this bull shite. Watch any episode of COPS and the majority of the perps (white, black, latino, etc.) are bloodied due to a fall, escape/bitten by dog or resisting arrest. Of course the media, like Trayvon Martin's innocent baby picture, will show the bloodied face of the unarmed black UVA honor student. It's getting out of control.

You're talking about Cops, this is ABC.. A little different. One has an even bigger inferiority complex than the other
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:40 am to
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That being said, the prudent thing would have been to just stand there and let him do it but that is neither here nor there.

This is what my first thoughts were. His father didn't have the talk with him.

My problem with the news reports are they pick up in the middle of the incident where the video starts. That is only half of the story.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259875 posts
Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:46 am to
quote:

or resisting arrest.



No reason to rough up anyone on a minor alcohol violation. If they try to run, let them go.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:49 am to
Why is the school even involved with this....the incident took place off campus.
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