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when is John Groce on the hot seat in Champaign?

Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:46 pm
Posted by Jawja_Joe
Member since Sep 2014
1386 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:46 pm
A bama team who lost their coach earlier in the week is dismantling the illini in the 1st round of the nit. This is the second year in a row they have failed to make the dance. I cannot believe illini alumni are pleased with his production...
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
27230 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:48 pm to
Good question. Illinois is a basketball school that sucks at basketball. With Maryland joining the Big 10, they are really down the current totem pole.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40385 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:52 pm to
They have a good recruiting class coming in, that's his saving grace, but another shitty year and he gone IMO
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71486 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:56 pm to
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They have a good recruiting class coming in

Kind of but of the ESPN top 100 there's 6 from Illinois and they got one of them. Nebraska got 2. They struggle a lot recruiting instate and it's one thing if KU, IU, and UK are taking them but Nebraska, that ain't good.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 8:57 pm
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
9405 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:58 pm to
He was Hot Stuff about this time three years earlier in 2012. Now, not so much. I say he has one more year of suckiness and to quote the Hawk,"He gone!".
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 8:59 pm
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40385 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:59 pm to
True but their top guy is from northwest Indiana which is essentially the Chicago area.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71486 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:31 pm to
They're TERRIBLE in the actual Chicago area though.
Posted by sassyLSU
Lake Charles, La.
Member since May 2011
2080 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

Kind of but of the ESPN top 100 there's 6 from Illinois and they got one of them. Nebraska got 2. They struggle a lot recruiting instate and it's one thing if KU, IU, and UK are taking them but Nebraska, that ain't good.


Nebraska joined B10 to get to recruit Chicago basketball. I heard their AD say that.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71486 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:56 pm to
The 2011 instate class should give them nightmares. Included:
Anthony Davis(best player of a national title team)
Ryan Boatright(2nd best player on a national title team)
Wayne Blackshear(got heavy minutes on a national title team)
Chasson Randle(2 time All-Pac 12)
Frank Kaminsky(possible national POY).
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23862 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 12:14 am to
good lord. that's a ton of elite level college talent
Posted by Statsattack
Il
Member since Feb 2013
3897 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 4:46 am to
Most people in the Chicago land area hate University of Illinois. Schools like Illinois and Indiana will never be basketball powers because of students not caring, perception of the school and in state alumni being delusional
Posted by emoney
Westerville, OH
Member since May 2010
8642 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 5:39 am to
quote:

They have a good recruiting class coming in, that's his saving grace, but another shitty year and he gone IMO
I agree. And I'm a big John Groce fan for what he did at OSU, then Ohio.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9235 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 5:56 am to
IMO What hurts Illinois is that the university is located in Champaign, IL. There is no connection from the players in Chicago to Champaign. I think this truely hurts Illinois in sports. Chicagoland has what 8 million people and is the 2nd best basketball city in America. If Illinois could somehow get these guys to stay in state, Illinois would be a basketball blue blood.
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
8635 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 6:58 am to
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I cannot believe illini alumni are pleased with his production...


They aren't.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10666 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 7:27 am to
Chicago recruiting is notorious for the existence of middle-men. I disagree that the location of Urbana/Champaign is a problem. It's about two hours away depending on traffic and there is an Amtrak train that routinely like daily to and from Chicago.

Kids from families who eschew the middle-men are so sought after it's difficult to recruit Chicago cleanly.

Some coaches like Tom Izzo and the coach at Duke won't even bother with guys who are middle-men represented.

Grace needs to consider going the Calipari or Boeheim route if he wants to keep his job which sucks.
This post was edited on 3/18/15 at 7:28 am
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158722 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 7:53 am to
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He was Hot Stuff about this time three years earlier in 2012


seems to happen fairly often, coach goes on a run at a small school in the tournament, big school hires him away as the next big thing, goes on to do jack shite.
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