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Advice for Petsafe wireless fence system

Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:04 pm
Posted by slapahoe
USA
Member since Sep 2009
7442 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:04 pm
I put my golden on one about a week ago. He caught on to the flag + beeping means get back very quickly. One afternoon I was cutting grass outside the boundary and he decided to run past boundary and come meet me. I had the collar turned down on a low setting bc he really just lays around all day. After that I decided to up the power setting to be sure he wouldnt get past the boundary. He tried it again a day later and it tuned his arse up. He ran back to my patio and sat down. Its been almost 6 days and he refuses to leave my concrete patio/carport
I wouldnt care but he is shitting on my concrete and Im having to pick it up with a shovel. I have tried different things from treats, fetching, and even putting him on a leash and walking him but he aint having it.

Anything else I can do? Or am I screwed?
Posted by TexasTiger01
Lake Houston
Member since Nov 2013
3215 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:43 pm to
He'll get over it. My Austrailan cut a back flip the first time he ran past the boundaries, I felt pretty bad. He stayed in the deck for 3-4 day then started venturing out again. It's been about 3 months now, he knows his limits.
Posted by slapahoe
USA
Member since Sep 2009
7442 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:50 pm to
Hope so....tired of cleaning up piles of shite that look like cows dropped on my driveway
Posted by Big_country346
Member since Jul 2013
3603 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:07 pm to
My dog knows the difference with her shock collar and without. Try taking the collar off. When it's off she's a full blown playful puppy but when the collar is on, she knows it's time for business.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 9:08 pm
Posted by HoLeInOnEr05
Middle of the fairway
Member since Aug 2011
16834 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:40 pm to
We just returned the wireless and are ordering one to bury. I was not impressed with the radius of the wireless.
Posted by Big_country346
Member since Jul 2013
3603 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:52 pm to
shite, I have the petsafe wireless thing for the wife's poodle. The radius isn't too bad, It just works when it wants. I don't give a shite about him but I put a DT 1850 h2o on my dog and just hit the locator every now and then when she's running around the yard. 99% of the time she comes hauling arse back to me because she knows what's coming after the beep.
Posted by Tiger-Striped-Bass
The Bay Area
Member since Dec 2004
1266 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 8:03 am to
I had two labs contained in about an acre an a half. Afterwards, the neighbor across had a single lab contained in one with the same results I had. Eventually, they do not respect the shock anymore. I progressed to the point of 2-9volt stubborn dog shockers on each collar, and eventually got to 4 layers of boundary wire run by two seperate transmitters. The shock zone was about 40-50' across. They'd still run through it. Works well for a while. But eventually it will stop containing. Maybe with an old lazy dog or a really small dog you may fare better. But I've yet to see it work permenantly.
Posted by swanny297
NELA
Member since Oct 2013
2189 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 8:09 am to
You used the collar to punish him instead of correct and retrain the behavior you were expecting. An Ecollar (shock collar) should never be used to "tune your dogs arse" it should be set at the proper threshold to correct behavior.

You could allow him to wear the collar with it turned off until he is comfortable with it, than you will have to walk through the learning again and keep the collar at a threshold level. Walking the flag line and him jumping back when it beeps doesn't mean that the training is over.

I was also told when I was learning to train with an Ecollar that when you are training and place the collar on the dog there is no correction given within the first 30 minutes and that you never correct above their threshold. My dog is excited to wear her Ecollar, it should be just like wearing any other collar.
Posted by BayouBlue386
53298 posts
Member since Mar 2015
764 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 8:18 am to
Used mine for one day. He walked to the line, heard the beep, stopped, stepped back, and made a break for it. If any LSU back could shake off an impact like that we would be good.

Now my wife's little dog... A lev 1 seds him running scared.
Posted by Tiger-Striped-Bass
The Bay Area
Member since Dec 2004
1266 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 8:39 am to
Let me clarify. I did the full-bore training on a leash, then with the collar without correction etc, for the full duration with flags and all as specified - by the book. Everything was fine for probably two years without a single incident. It was not an instant failure. I swore by it to many people over that couple of years. But once they learn to run through and that it's a temporary discomfort, it's over. If they want to be on the other side, they will go. That's when I incrementally increased correction until I had enough of it. I thought maybe it was because of having two dogs and it being a chasing thing. But the neighbor had only one dog, and experienced the same thing. Everything was fine for a year or two. Once they get out one time, it's over.

How long have you had yours? The only people I've ever talked to who swear by them like I used to, just haven't had them long enough.

One of my labs was already about a year old when I started. A year later I got the second one as a puppy. The first had never gotten out that whole year, so I started the puppy on it from the get go. Kept him in a pen for the full training duration - didn't just stick a collar on him and turn him loose. Things went awry when they were 2-4 y.o. high energy, 60-70lb dogs.
This post was edited on 3/18/15 at 8:52 am
Posted by sonoma8
Member since Oct 2006
7663 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 8:51 am to
Have one on my lab too. Set it on level 3 and let him go. Had to turn it up high one time and he never forgot where he was at when it hit him. He knows what time it is when i put that collar on. He has ran thru it but it wasnt turned up high. Plus I put a beating on him like a grown arse man. Fixed that problem too. Now he just hangs out at the house, havent had a problem since.
Posted by Tiger-Striped-Bass
The Bay Area
Member since Dec 2004
1266 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 8:53 am to
sonoma, how long have you had the system?
Posted by sonoma8
Member since Oct 2006
7663 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 9:00 am to
2 years I think. Had to replace the collar once but besides changing batteries, I havent had a problem with it. The only problem I dont like is that it only covers 1/2 acre and I live on 5. Plan this summer to put and underground system around the property line so he has room to do whatever. Since hes been cut, he doesnt roam much anymore.
Posted by mooseofterror
USA
Member since Dec 2012
1338 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 9:03 am to
...going on >4 years with an underground fence and 2 mutts and only had a problem once. Left for Europe for 3 weeks over Christmas and Mom was checking on the dogs, said she stopped by one day and they were running all over the neighborhood, so my brother chained them up until we returned. Got home and figured out the winter coat caused contact problem, so shaved their necks, installed longer prongs and increased shock intensity, no problems since. That was 2 years ago. Did not do the full-bore training, b/c they kept digging up the wire I was burying, so they got the crash course. Both 5 years old, one is 30lbs, the other 60lbs, good squirrel dogs that hunt well, but will not even cross the boundary at home to chase squirrels out of yard.

I think with the wireless that the dogs will get shock when they are outside the range of the transmitter, meaning they continually get shocked until they return within range. There is of course a time limit and the collar disables after a predetermined time.
Posted by Tiger-Striped-Bass
The Bay Area
Member since Dec 2004
1266 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 9:15 am to
I had the wired system. Cut through my driveway and all. Both male and female were fixed. They were bitter competitors in all things and I blamed their escaping on that. They always tried to outdo each other. When they got out, it was like they were running the kentucky derby. After I no longer had mine, the neighbor across got a single male, and after some time, a year or two, his started doing the same thing. I think he may have had the wireless. His lab is tied up now. Mine, I tied them up temporarily until I could figure somehting else out. I tied them with ski rope to overhead limbs so they would give, and not get tangled. One chewed through the rope, the other slipped the collar. My tags were on the shock collars, not the tie collars. So finally the problem was solved. Never heard or saw from them again. For that I'm thankful, after all I went through with them.
Posted by BayouBlue386
53298 posts
Member since Mar 2015
764 posts
Posted on 3/18/15 at 9:17 am to
My wireless hits for 15 seconds. No more.

Not enough to deter a dog who literally wags his tail when you give him a smack.
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