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When filling out your bracket, remember this poor guy.

Posted on 3/16/15 at 4:22 pm
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28332 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 4:22 pm
This is partly a political post, but since we're in the season of March Madness, I figured I would post it here.

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They were everywhere, 11 cops in full body armor, tearing apart his modest three-bedroom condo. And all John Bovery could do was watch.


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Bovery tried, once again, to explain. He was not a bookmaker. He was not hiding anything. He was a football pool operator who was so open about his business, and so convinced he was doing it legally, that he listed his home address in Parlin on the pool's website.


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This one, he told investigators and NJ Advance Media, was worth $837,000 in 2009. This one had 8,000 entries from around the globe -- men and women sending in $100 for a chance to win that huge pot.


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He made what he considers a suggestion on his website jrwinkle.com: That winners, if they were satisfied with the experience of playing in the pool, give him a "gift" amounting to 10 percent of the amount they collected. Some winners, Bovery said, refused to give anything, and others gave less than Bovery's suggestion. Most agreed to make some sort of donation. In its final year, he tweaked that request to ask that all players make a 10 percent gift of the entry fee.


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But here they were, descending upon him, he said, "like I was Al Capone" hours before the first game of the NFL season. Here they were, seizing his three accounts at Amboy Bank, only after his deposits from pool participants drove the balance to more than $846,000. Of that money, Bovery said, $722,000 belonged to pool players -- some entrants still hadn't paid -- and $124,000 was his life's savings.


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Bovery was charged with promoting gambling in the third degree and financial facilitation of criminal activity -- or money laundering -- in the first degree.


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If this is an important crime why haven't they busted another pool operator since? How exactly did Bovery launder money when he has a record of every penny and it was kept in a single bank?


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Pretty ridiculous to think that the Fed's don't have more pressing matters than to harass people for shite like this.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38404 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 4:28 pm to
This is why Gambling should be legal. Why waste tax money going after shite like this, when they can make money off of shite like this?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39545 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 4:31 pm to
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Pretty ridiculous to think that the Fed's don't have more pressing matters than to harass people for shite like this.



Problem is, there is a LOT of stuff every day people do that looks like money laundering. The government can't figure out who is who, so they do shite like this. When you hit big numbers like that while showing "signs" of laundering, they are gonna come.

Messed up though.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 4:31 pm to
There's plenty of stupidity with what this guy did. Why would anyone feel bad?
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28332 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 4:34 pm to
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There's plenty of stupidity with what this guy did. Why would anyone feel bad?

What's stupid about it? People gave him money to run a pool, I assume he paid taxes on his gains as the IRS isn't involved, so what's the issue? As long as no other laws were broken, give the guy a break. No one got hurt as a result of him running the pool.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 4:41 pm to
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What's stupid about it?


Dude was a March Madness bookie and advertised it publicly in a state with legal gambling. That is just plain dumb.

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I assume he paid taxes on his gains as the IRS isn't involved


And why would you assume that?

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In its final year, he tweaked that request to ask that all players make a 10 percent gift of the entry fee.


Ding. ding. ding. We have a moron. Why I wonder was the year he asked for 10% of the fees the last year?

Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28332 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 4:46 pm to
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And why would you assume that?


Because he wasn't hit with tax evasion charges

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We have a moron. Why I wonder was the year he asked for 10% of the fees the last year?


Because cheap bastards were winning the pools and failing to give the guy a few bucks for his time and effort. Again, if the people who were participating didn't like it, they weren't forced to participate.

Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 5:02 pm to
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Because cheap bastards were winning the pools and failing to give the guy a few bucks for his time and effort. Again, if the people who were participating didn't like it, they weren't forced to participate.


If you are disagreeing with the law, that's one thing. Feeling bad because some dude broke it in spectacular fashion is another.

I think it's ridiculous that Pay-to-Play Fantasy Football Leagues aren't offered to residents of Louisiana on the legal sites because of some bullshite law from the early 90s. You don't see LouisianaFantasyFootball.com up and running with a 10% rake because Yahoo! doesn't offer it though do you?
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