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Sod Installation Questions
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:18 pm
I know this has been discussed before, but have a few questions for the OT.
Is it difficult to install sod, specifically if I would like to tie back into some existing zoysia?
Is it worth it to retain 1000 sf of zoysia that is established or should I just start everything from scratch?
If I till up the existing centipede that I am trying to get rid of, do I need to roundup also?
Is it worth it to pay $370/pallet installed if I can buy the same stuff for $210/pallet?
For leveling of some low spots, is masonry sand okay?
Is it difficult to install sod, specifically if I would like to tie back into some existing zoysia?
Is it worth it to retain 1000 sf of zoysia that is established or should I just start everything from scratch?
If I till up the existing centipede that I am trying to get rid of, do I need to roundup also?
Is it worth it to pay $370/pallet installed if I can buy the same stuff for $210/pallet?
For leveling of some low spots, is masonry sand okay?
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Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:24 pm to CidCock
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Is it difficult to install sod, specifically if I would like to tie back into some existing zoysia?
No
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Is it worth it to retain 1000 sf of zoysia that is established or should I just start everything from scratch?
Is the 1000 SF you're looking at retaining in good shape and free of weeds? If so keep it.
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If I till up the existing centipede that I am trying to get rid of, do I need to roundup also?
Don't till it up, cut it out and spray round-up afterwards
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Is it worth it to pay $370/pallet installed if I can buy the same stuff for $210/pallet?
How many pallets are we talking about? If it's 1 pallet it maybe worth it to you to have someone else do it for $160 but if we're talking several pallets, I would do it myself
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For leveling of some low spots, is masonry sand okay?
Probably but river sand is cheaper.
Just my 2 cents
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:25 pm to CidCock
$370 a pallet installed!!!
I'm not sure where you live but I paid $120 a pallet in Texas and hired some hispanics at $15 an hour to lay it. 10 pallets and I was out about $1500.
And that is Zoysia
I'm not sure where you live but I paid $120 a pallet in Texas and hired some hispanics at $15 an hour to lay it. 10 pallets and I was out about $1500.
And that is Zoysia
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:28 pm to Wtodd
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Is the 1000 SF you're looking at retaining in good shape and free of weeds? If so keep it.
Yeah, it's pretty good as it is.
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Don't till it up, cut it out and spray round-up afterwards
Cut it out? Is this tough to do without a sod cutter? Will tilling it work?
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How many pallets are we talking about? If it's 1 pallet it maybe worth it to you to have someone else do it for $160 but if we're talking several pallets, I would do it myself
3 for now. Sounded kinda high to me.
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Probably but river sand is cheaper.
Noted, thanks.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:29 pm to CidCock
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Is it difficult to install sod, specifically if I would like to tie back into some existing zoysia?
Difficult, not really, but labor intensive. If you are installing zoysia then you should be ready for lots of labor anyway.
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If I till up the existing centipede that I am trying to get rid of, do I need to roundup also?
If you need to do that much tilling you can roundup if you want. Not really required.
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For leveling of some low spots, is masonry sand okay?
Masonry sand is a great solution, just be careful of walking on the area until it is well rooted.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:29 pm to Tim
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$370 a pallet installed!!!
I'm not sure where you live but I paid $120 a pallet in Texas and hired some hispanics at $15 an hour to lay it. 10 pallets and I was out about $1500.
And that is Zoysia
$120 a pallet for zoysia, that's cheaper than anywhere. $210 is about going rate around here.
We don't have as many hispanics here, and our workers aren't as motivated to work for $10/hour. Also, where do I find said laborers?
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:29 pm to CidCock
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Is it difficult to install sod, specifically if I would like to tie back into some existing zoysia?
Installing it is really easy. Have machete ready to cut the squares to fit whatever outline you're going to follow.
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Is it worth it to retain 1000 sf of zoysia that is established or should I just start everything from scratch?
If you're worried about having different levels from the sod to existing grass, it'll level out over time
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If I till up the existing centipede that I am trying to get rid of, do I need to roundup also?
If you remove the existing grass, roundup wouldn't be necessary. If you till then lay sand then sod it'll choke it out anyway.
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Is it worth it to pay $370/pallet installed if I can buy the same stuff for $210/pallet?
If you have the area prepared for the sod, then you've done the hard part. Sod is easy to lay so I wouldn't pay someone to do it.
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For leveling of some low spots, is masonry sand okay?
Sand is good for leveling, but masonary sand is going to be more expensive than just regular sand.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:30 pm to fightin tigers
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Difficult, not really, but labor intensive. If you are installing zoysia then you should be ready for lots of labor anyway.
Thats what I've heard. But I haven't had much trouble with the established zoysia. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:30 pm to CidCock
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Cut it out? Is this tough to do without a sod cutter? Will tilling it work?
Yep it's tough...you can rent a sod cutter.
Here's why, IMO, you shouldn't till it....you're changing grasses and you want all of the old grass gone or it may frick up your new grass.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:31 pm to Wtodd
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Probably but river sand is cheaper.
Whats the point of round up if you are about to put a base of sedge?
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:31 pm to CidCock
Sod really isn't that hard to do yourself. Get a sod cutter, and cut the old stuff out. Then prep the ground, and lay the sod. It's not difficult. Just be sure to stagger the sod pattern when laying so you don't have creases that water will run through.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:31 pm to CidCock
nb4: green side up, good to go
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:31 pm to pointdog33
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If you remove the existing grass, roundup wouldn't be necessary. If you till then lay sand then sod it'll choke it out anyway.
Is there a more productive way to do this than my tiller?
ETA: Sod cutter, hmmm
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:34 pm to CidCock
I bought four pallets of centipede from Deep South in pineville for 125$
I went and picked it up though.
Soon as it dries up I'm nuking my yard with roundup to lol winter grass and sees rest with centipede to tie sod .
Why are you wanting to get rid of it ? It's a pretty, drought resistant grass.
Throw some fertilize to it and wtxh it go.
I went and picked it up though.
Soon as it dries up I'm nuking my yard with roundup to lol winter grass and sees rest with centipede to tie sod .
Why are you wanting to get rid of it ? It's a pretty, drought resistant grass.
Throw some fertilize to it and wtxh it go.
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:35 pm to fightin tigers
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Whats the point of round up if you are about to put a base of sedge?
Valid point.....I'll clarify......after you cut out the old grass and level with sand (whatever variety), put round-up down......we good now?
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:35 pm to CidCock
I used tractors to prepare our area because we laid 5 pallets or so. If you have a good rear tine tiller it'll rip it up nice.
If your want to kill the grass, spray round up on it before tilling to let it die. It'll be easier to till with dead grass.
If your want to kill the grass, spray round up on it before tilling to let it die. It'll be easier to till with dead grass.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:35 pm to TIGRLEE
Centipede is a lot cheaper, the zoysia just seems to look more full...at least here in SC
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:35 pm to CidCock
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Is there a more productive way to do this than my tiller?
Roundup the whole area and lay directly over the ground.
All the prep steps are to make you feel better. Sod can be laid directly over weeds and it will be fine.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:36 pm to fightin tigers
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Roundup the whole area and lay directly over the ground.
Really?
How long to let the roundup sit?
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:36 pm to pointdog33
In Louisiana I use river silt from the Mississippi. It has sand and dirt, levels easy and costs less than mason sand but is much better.
See if you can get some time of sand/silt where you are. If not just river sand is fine.
I've gone directly over zoysia with centipede (which I prefer-grew up with zoysia and hated it) and the sod chokes it out. I just scalped it really low with my lawnmower. Not sure about labor but I've laid tons of it. Good wheelbarrow, good gloves, the above mentioned machete, flat shovel and an ice chest full of beer. Get the music going, the green egg smoking and get after it. Sounds like a fine Saturday to me. 3 pallets I'd have down in a couple hours.
See if you can get some time of sand/silt where you are. If not just river sand is fine.
I've gone directly over zoysia with centipede (which I prefer-grew up with zoysia and hated it) and the sod chokes it out. I just scalped it really low with my lawnmower. Not sure about labor but I've laid tons of it. Good wheelbarrow, good gloves, the above mentioned machete, flat shovel and an ice chest full of beer. Get the music going, the green egg smoking and get after it. Sounds like a fine Saturday to me. 3 pallets I'd have down in a couple hours.
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