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Quincy Pondexter is up to 39.1% from 3

Posted on 3/11/15 at 8:16 am
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61420 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 8:16 am
Most of his stats with the Pels are very similar to that break out season he had in Memphis before the last 1.5 were slowed by injury and falling out of favor in the rotation. He shot 39.5% from 3 then so this should be a pace he can maintain.

That is all :CSB:
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 8:19 am to
Those intangibles though
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38615 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 8:22 am to
when qpon was a rookie dell used him to steal Vasquez from the grizz, who turned out to be exactly what the team needed at the time

this year dell used rivers to steal qpon from the grizz who turned out to be exactly what the team needed at the time
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32329 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 8:50 am to
He's exactly what we needed at the 3, a high energy locker room guy who can hit open 3's. It makes the comment from HP about Aminu even more ridiculous.

Since joining the Pels:

8.3 pts
2.8 rebs
1.5 ast
44.4% fg
39.1% from 3

Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61420 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:06 am to
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He's exactly what we needed at the 3


He's exactly what we need at the back up 3. He's a little small and allows dribble penetration too easily at times for me to want him as a 35 MPG starter.

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It makes the comment from HP about Aminu even more ridiculous.


He had his reasons. 1) Matt Moore said every time he's said something complimentary about Aminu Pelican fans would tell him he was trash. 2) Pels fans are obsessed with the short comings of our top 10 offense and completely oblivious to our bottom 5 defense.

The team is certainly improved with Pondexter getting minutes that Salmons and Babbit used to get (with Babbitt now getting more stretch 4 minutes), but as I pointed out above, there are some serious holes in QPon's defensive ability that I'm not sure he can over come. While I hope we get a more balanced player than Aminu, we do need to add someone with better size and defensive ability at SF than Pondexter.
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 9:09 am
Posted by whoknows1390
nola
Member since Jul 2014
1672 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:10 am to
no dude, Aminu is where its at.
Posted by Spitting Venom
Member since Sep 2013
1110 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:15 am to
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we do need to add someone with better size and defensive ability at SF than Pondexter.


Yeah, definitely. Love what Pondexter/Cole bring, but they aren't 30 MPG guys.

There are a few guys we can target this offseason. Jae Crowder (MLE), DeMarre Carrol (MLE?), Wilson Chandler (trade), Batum (trade), possibly Dudley. I'm sure I'm missing some quality guys, but the point is there are options this summer to upgrade. Keep QPon for depth, energy, leadership.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25326 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:16 am to
Qpon is money from the corners.

Our bad defense has more to do with scheme than players if you ask me.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32329 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:17 am to
Aminu wasn't that good defensively, and he could never play with Tyreke because you can't play two guard/wing players who can't shoot at the same time.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32329 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:22 am to
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Qpon is money from the corners.

Our bad defense has more to do with scheme than players if you ask me.


I agree with this. You don't need great defensive players at every position. With this team healthy we should have good defenders at center, power forward, and point guard.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:22 am to
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He had his reasons. 1) Matt Moore said every time he's said something complimentary about Aminu Pelican fans would tell him he was trash. 2) Pels fans are obsessed with the short comings of our top 10 offense and completely oblivious to our bottom 5 defense.


Moore is comparing the wrong person to Aminu. Dante and Aminu are splitting images of each other except Dante isn't so indecisive.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32329 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:23 am to
Dante can dribble a ball and shoot it some, though
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:33 am to
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could never play with Tyreke because you can't play two guard/wing players who can't shoot at the same time.


I don't know about that. Aminu/Anderson/Evans was a +22 last year with a DRating of 99.4. The Pelicans have the bigs to play an Aminu type. Anderson, Davis, Ajinça allow them to space the floor from the 4/5. But that doesn't mean Aminu or his mold is an answer in NO.

The Mavs aren't exactly the Warriors from deep and they've been able to get good offense with Aminu and no Dirk. They spread the floor and move the ball in ways the Pelicans don't. They shoot 34.9% from 3, yet take 26 3PA. The Pels shoot 36.2% but take 19 3PA. That doesn't mean they should shoot more 3s, because the offense is good already. But maybe it means they need their wings to be floor spacers in ways the Mavs don't. They ask them to do something Aminu couldn't do in NO, but he can fill that role in Dallas.
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
25772 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:59 am to
thankyou austin rivers

thread/
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25326 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:05 pm to
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You don't need great defensive players at every position. With this team healthy we should have good defenders at center, power forward, and point guard.


Tony Parker and Ginobili have never been good defenders, at all, yet they manage to play good defense as a team when it matters.

There aren't many great individual defenders in the NBA that can cover the elite guards of the NBA now.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5247 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:08 pm to
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2) Pels fans are obsessed with the short comings of our top 10 offense and completely oblivious to our bottom 5 defense.


This can't be reiterated enough. I'm not saying there shouldn't be discussion on the offense, but 90% of this boards personnel discussion revolves around our top 10 offense. Rarely, people will opine a couple of ill-informed comments about the defense.

We aren't gonna get a title contender with our D anywhere close to where it is now.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32329 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:17 pm to
Defense has more to do with scheme than talent.

Bring in Thibs!
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5247 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:53 pm to
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Defense has more to do with scheme than talent.


link?

Not trying to be an a-hole, just really don't know if that is true. Yes, it has a lot to do with scheme, but so does offense. In this era of advanced stats and metrics, I've personally readjusted my view on basketball and now don't see a player as much as just their offensive skill and athleticism plus how much they hustle on defense.

Stuff like having great length on defense is so important, especially in today's game. Having a Paul George or Kawhi Leonard to defend the other team's star wing is every bit as valuable as a stud scorer.

I certainly see why Pelicans fans would give up and just chalk it up to scheme because of the seeming talent we've had at defense(Jrue, Aminu, AD, Asik) with poor results. I definitely think Monty isn't a good schemer. But a lot of it is giving up before putting it together at the same time. Sometimes it simply is the sum of the parts. See Milwaukee predictably having the 2nd best defense. A team with 2013 Jrue, Aminu, 2014 AD, and 2012 Asik all playing healthy at those levels would be a top defensive unit in the league IMO.

Its like we've always had 2 good defenders, 2 bad ones, and a mediocre one playing plus a terrible bench of defenders. AD is only just now getting good at defense. Plus we add Asik. But we lose Aminu and Jrue. When we had Aminu and Jrue playing elite, we were running Ryno and our SG were ATROCIOUS defenders plus AD was only average.

But there is a tendency to throw up your hands and say "its gotta be scheme!" I think a lot more of it is having a lot of bad and average defenders on the court the last couple of years.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22384 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 1:01 pm to
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link?



Thats not a linkable assertion haha
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5247 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 1:24 pm to
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Thats not a linkable assertion haha


yeh, my point is it was total conjecture. Although it certainly could be linked.

Find the correlation between certain players vs the correlation between certain coaches. If theres a stronger correlation between players(playing under multiple coaches and systems) and good/bad D then their is between coaches(coaching with turnover of players) and good/bad D, it would point to talent rather than scheme. And vice versa.
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 1:25 pm
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