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Looking at the numbers, was the Graham trade planned all along?
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:49 pm
Right before FA we got to about $2.4m under. The number was an estimate but it should be close. The Graham trade cost us $2.5m in cap. So that means we are right at the cap at the moment. So it seems we knew exactly how much we needed to clear starting from the PT release.
And yes we are right at the cap but there is no immediate need to make more cuts until we reach agreements with FAs. But make no mistake more cuts are coming.
And yes we are right at the cap but there is no immediate need to make more cuts until we reach agreements with FAs. But make no mistake more cuts are coming.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:52 pm to bonethug0108
I think throughout the day, loomis plays with his calculator a lot more than we think. Playing with every combination he could think of.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:57 pm to htran90
Sad part is I do that too.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:59 pm to bonethug0108
I think it's safe to say it was not done on a whim
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:11 pm to bonethug0108
I thought the $2.4 did not include the Colston restructure. So, isn't it possible they are still a few million under?
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:14 pm to Weekend Warrior79
Seattles GM said in an interview on NFL.com that they had been in talks for awhile
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:33 pm to WicKed WayZ
Yeah that's my point. Was this a week of talks? A month?
Many are looking at this as a spur of the moment, knee-jerk decision when this was likely something Loomis has been working on since the season ended. He knew the number to get to and got there but no more.
And from what I remember the number included Colston estimated at $3m savings. But it has been a long day for me so I could be wrong. Either way going to over the cap and putting in Colston as a restructure puts us right at the cap (they have us about $800k over still but have been a little off before, and maybe Colston saved a little more).
Many are looking at this as a spur of the moment, knee-jerk decision when this was likely something Loomis has been working on since the season ended. He knew the number to get to and got there but no more.
And from what I remember the number included Colston estimated at $3m savings. But it has been a long day for me so I could be wrong. Either way going to over the cap and putting in Colston as a restructure puts us right at the cap (they have us about $800k over still but have been a little off before, and maybe Colston saved a little more).
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:22 am to bonethug0108
Feels like a bit of an overreaction on Seattle's part to that final screwed up Super Bowl play. I'm sure it's not only that, but it seems to me that trading for Jimmy Graham is not the easiest solution to making sure that play never happens again... the guy already on the roster, Lynch, was.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 5:16 am to bonethug0108
No
It was a terrible shitty panic move
It was a terrible shitty panic move
Posted on 3/11/15 at 5:35 am to bonethug0108
Honestly, I think they wanted to move jimmy before last season. Just think the we/te negotiations struck a nerve with CSP. I have no basis for that other than a hunch.
I love the move.
I love the move.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:49 am to bonethug0108
You obviously know more about the cap than I do b/c, well frankly I don't really care about it
But how did the Graham trade cost us $2.5m? Does Unger have a bigger base this year or something?
But how did the Graham trade cost us $2.5m? Does Unger have a bigger base this year or something?
Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:52 am to elprez00
@Laz, yeah if anything this seems like Seattle trying to fix it's red zone goal line woes. Believe it or not there was a stat that Lynch actually isn't the guy you want to give it to in that spot.
He's great when he gets a head of steam and that line has been huge in opening holes for him (he rarely hit in the backfield). Not enough people give credit to that line. But you can see anytime he gets hit early he is slow to restart even if he does break the tackle. This allows people to swarm him.
And on the goal line there are a lot of people stacked up to hit you early.
@pres pres organization was definitely upset with him for all that shite. He delayed filing on purpose so other teams wouldn't know the resolution and that clouded up negotiations. It basically made him untradable until it was resolved and iirc it was after the draft which killed any reason for us to trade him last year.
Just like us having no trade partners for Galette this year left us stuck with him (and don't be surprised to see him traded after June 1st or early next year), we were stuck with Jimmy because the WR/TE scared away all trade partners.
So maybe this was planned a lot further back than I originally thought. And sending him specifically to Seattle seems like a big frick you.
He's great when he gets a head of steam and that line has been huge in opening holes for him (he rarely hit in the backfield). Not enough people give credit to that line. But you can see anytime he gets hit early he is slow to restart even if he does break the tackle. This allows people to swarm him.
And on the goal line there are a lot of people stacked up to hit you early.
@pres pres organization was definitely upset with him for all that shite. He delayed filing on purpose so other teams wouldn't know the resolution and that clouded up negotiations. It basically made him untradable until it was resolved and iirc it was after the draft which killed any reason for us to trade him last year.
Just like us having no trade partners for Galette this year left us stuck with him (and don't be surprised to see him traded after June 1st or early next year), we were stuck with Jimmy because the WR/TE scared away all trade partners.
So maybe this was planned a lot further back than I originally thought. And sending him specifically to Seattle seems like a big frick you.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:56 am to SaintLSUnAtl
Basically getting rid of Graham saved us $2m on his number ($9m dead money cut down on the savings) but we still have to pay Unger his salary which is $4.5m so in total the move lost us $2m in cap space.
This was definitely not a salary cap move first, especially for this year(since we lost cap). This was far and away about football first.
Edit:
God damn ninjas with y'all god damn short posts. You know I like writing novels.
This was definitely not a salary cap move first, especially for this year(since we lost cap). This was far and away about football first.
Edit:
God damn ninjas with y'all god damn short posts. You know I like writing novels.
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 6:58 am
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