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speaking of abrams, his partner in crime, matt reeves directed dawn of the planet of the apes...and back to your point about pioneering technology, dawn does this

serkis wasn't acting in a studio or against a green screen

he was on set, on location with all of the actors. his performance is incredible and having him be able to have the other actors see and interact with him (as opposed to imagining him there and being told what they're interacting with) makes the movie so good.

give it another watch. It is a superb science fiction film.

Matt reeves has written and directed 2 films (let me in and dawn of the planet of the apes) he is going to be a great film director

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Send me your fricking email so I can buy you the sequel.

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Ace politely declines. It was free on Netflix for a while.

<---gave zero f*cks

(ETA: I would prefer an old school test pattern, to ever having to look at that Pine kid again.)

(PS ETA: Pine was so bad as Kirk, I can't watch CHiPs reruns, because his father played the sergeant, which is pretty bad - I mean, I never gave up Hank Fonda films because of Hanoi Jane.)

what we're seeing here is the real problem with the star trek reboots

asurob1 probably didn't like star trek, and that's who the star trek reboots were made to accommodate

you love star trek, and that is the audience that abrams, the studio, everyone was least concerned with

it's not that abrams doesn't have talent behind a camera (he does), it's that he made star trek, but didn't know anything about star trek. the movie establishes a new time line so they can borrow and steal ideas they like from the original movies and series without it having to be exactly the same...it's kind of a cop out really.

abrams does love star wars, and I imagine he'll make a star wars movie aimed at people who loved the OT...I'm not concerned with his attachment to the movie at all save for the fact he may have a sizeable ego and his name comes with complete control so when he wants something that sucks or doesn't work, no one is going to tell him "no" that was lucas' problem, but again...abrams understands star wars better than lucas does apparently so it will be an alright movie, it's not going to be prequel bad or star trek reboot bad (and star trek reboot is also a huge step up from the prequels)

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Pine

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it's unfair that he's that good looking. I see the way my wife looks at him

I don't think he's some horrible actor. I like the horrible bosses movies because I love silly movies, and I think he fits well in the movie.

I guess what I'm saying is it didn't matter who directed those movies

they were going to shite on star trek to market it to a wider audience no matter what...abrams was just the guy they chose to do it.

I don't like them, not because I like star trek, but because I think the setup is so lazy. While lucas used imagery from the OT to make the audience like his shitty prequels, star trek created a loophole where they can just steal from TOS at any time. The movies demonstrate that abrams is a talented director...he was just taking orders on this one. If not him, then someone else would have done it.

I don't believe for one moment that he wasn't told upfront what type of movie he was going to make...unless jj abrams has the soul of a marketing director.

the amped up sex appeal and the fact everyone is super attractive screams studio involvement. Also, the love triangle made me think someone up the chain demanded a love interest for someone no matter what

considering everything about the movie, I'm shocked it wasn't worse. It wasn't made because of any creative spark, it was something shite out by a studio and no one attached was really passionate about it.

again, the star trek reboots do nothing to make me concerned about his attachment to it. Though if there is a lens flare, I will fricking laugh at what an egomaniac he is

he's in the second one, and it works on a channing tatum/jump street level.

I thought it was funny. it's not something you should rush to see, but they'll make you laugh

you know how I know star trek wasn't made to appeal to people like you

both movies have leonard nemoy who has to explain to the audience who the frick the bad guy was in TOS because no one in the audience has ever seen a single episode

What a ridiculous concept for exposition. Imagine if the wrath of khan had to do something outrageous like that to let the audience know that there is an emotional connection between the characters, and then not do anything to demonstrate that...even the characters in the movie don't know why they should hate kahn, fear khan, etc. they just take old spock's word for it. That's why Spock yelling "kaaaaaaaaahn" in the reboot is about the dumbest fricking thing I've ever seen spock is angry because other spock told him how much they hate him and since they reversed the setup from the original, we know that SPOILER ALERT

kirk will live so there's no tension and we don't feel spock's anger when he yells

but the original audience didn't know spock lived in the orginal, and that's who the movies were made for the magic of movies is long dead

I feel your pain though, while I know exactly who to blame for jedi not being great or the prequels if I even gave a shite about them, your enemy is a nameless suit in los angeles. So I guess you direct it at abrams and pine, even though it's not their fault nor are they bad at their jobs. :lol:

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asurob1 probably didn't like star trek, and that's who the star trek reboots were made to accommodate

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You're an idiot who doesn't have a clue what he is talking about.

I watched Star Trek...the original Star Trek...on NBC way back when.

It remains the best Star Trek of all time...bar none.

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The Galileo Seven

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Best Nimoy of the series...

Though Wrath of Khan remains his best appearance throughout all of Star Trek

I will be sure to look for it. Misread. Never you mind