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the real problem with the Qatar World Cup

Posted on 3/5/15 at 10:28 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 10:28 pm
corruption and calendar disruptions pale in comparison, yet this puzzlingly is getting much less coverage.

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Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 10:46 pm to
That was the main issue at first, but I think people are just starting to live with the fact that human rights don't exist in Qatar or that region of the world.

Truly sad.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 10:48 pm to
yeah at some point it's just like what is it that I can do? but then I heard dumbass Gary Neville saying that Qatar "deserves" the World Cup and everyone just needs to "get over it" and it just set me off abut it all over again.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 10:58 pm to
If I was a soccer star I would strongly consider boycott.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 11:07 pm to
Unfortunately, when these players only get two, maybe three, shots at the World Cup, boycotting isn't an appealing option.
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 11:25 pm to
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the real problem with the Qatar World Cup

Everything. Just, everything.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 11:29 pm to
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yeah at some point it's just like what is it that I can do?


Exactly. Like am I going to stop buying FIFA, watching soccer, buying jerseys? Nope. As much as I hate to say it I pretty much just drown it out.

Im not going over there, because i'd prefer to not get ISIS'd. The fact that no government has been like, "hey guys, we should really just tell FIFA that were boycotting the next two WC's" is beyond me. If someone of actual prestige would do it now it could maybe have an effect instead of the year before the tournament.
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 11:37 pm to
Wasn't this an issue in Brazil too?
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 11:51 pm to
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Wasn't this an issue in Brazil too?


Brazil's issue was taxpayers' money going towards stadium when they were already in tremendous debt.

A farcry from slavery.
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 11:55 pm to
Yeah I knew it wasn't as bad as slavery, but I thought I remembered there were some stories about terrible conditions for the workers there too.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 3/6/15 at 12:09 am to
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Yeah I knew it wasn't as bad as slavery, but I thought I remembered there were some stories about terrible conditions for the workers there too.



Im sure there were, what else can you expect from a country with favelas though?

Do Brazil/Qatar and other developing countries just not have workers rights? The Soccer board should run Fifa. We would do better.
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 3/6/15 at 3:17 am to
Anyone would do better.

Posted by wm72
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Posted on 3/6/15 at 3:50 am to
Yeah, Brazil had a couple of bad accidents. However, considering the amount of construction, nothing that out of line with massive projects in other first world nations, where construction accidents happen all too frequently and, unfortunately, safety measure are often given short shrift with an eye to profit as well.

Qatar, on the other hand, seems to be more closely following the model the ancient Egyptians established in constructing the pyramids in terms of safety protocol and labor conditions/dynamics.

Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 3/6/15 at 5:57 am to
It seems that soccer is more corrupt than boxing. Internationally and leagues.
Posted by CoachChappy
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Posted on 3/6/15 at 8:43 am to
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It seems that soccer is more corrupt than boxing. Internationally and leagues.

Internationally it is corrupt as it gets IMO as bad as boxing. The leagues (outside of Italy) I would say are truly competitive (not corrupt)

There are several problems with the WC in Qatar, getting ISIS'd would be at the top for me.
Posted by CoachChappy
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Posted on 3/6/15 at 8:47 am to
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The British company says on its website that subcontractors are required to abide by the health and safety standards applicable in the United Kingdom. Wages, living conditions and employment rights must comply with Qatari labour laws.


Wow, I just read the article again. Amazing how they negotiated that as part of the contract, no?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 3/6/15 at 8:48 am to
Russia is pretty bad too
Posted by STLhog
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Posted on 3/6/15 at 9:23 am to
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It seems that soccer is more corrupt than boxing. Internationally and leagues.



Yep, and with the scale it just makes things that much worse.

I really wish the American Federations would strongly consider a boycot and possibly Euro following suit.

The US could easily hold a patchwork world cup, we'd literally have to do almost nothing from a infrastructure standpoint.

Really is a shame, and nothing beautiful about it other than the chair members getting their pockets lined with blood and oil money.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 3/6/15 at 9:33 am to
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Yep, and with the scale it just makes things that much worse.

I really wish the American Federations would strongly consider a boycot and possibly Euro following suit.

The US could easily hold a patchwork world cup, we'd literally have to do almost nothing from a infrastructure standpoint.

Really is a shame, and nothing beautiful about it other than the chair members getting their pockets lined with blood and oil money.


We'll get a good feel for how it will go with Russia, IMO.

With the whole Crimea thing and with Putin getting crazier by the day, who knows what's going to happen politically. I know our politics with Russia are much more personal, than say, what Qatar is doing with a bunch of migrant workers, but it will be the closest example we'll have I think.

I remember when City played their group stage game in Moscow back in 2013 and Toure said he suffered through some racial abuse that it wasn't out of the question for whatever African countries who qualify to boycott it.

Who decides to boycott by the way? I mean will the president just say, "Nope, you guys can't go", or is it the soccer federation?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 3/6/15 at 9:40 am to
Well the Russian clubs on the reg play behind closed door.
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