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re: The biggest problem in schools that no one is talking about
Posted on 3/4/15 at 2:23 pm to Choupique19
Posted on 3/4/15 at 2:23 pm to Choupique19
quote:The only people who believe in the "not good test takers" excuse either A) have done shitty on standardized tests themselves or B) have a child who does shitty on standardized tests.
Some kids just aren't good test takers.
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 2:39 pm to MLSter
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Also it pisses me off that people feel you must have a degree to get a job. Unless you are going to be a Doctor, engineer or scientist you don't need a degree. oh you have a degree in accounting cool, I know 20 people with out degrees that are just as capable as you.
This is ignorant, and you sound very mad.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 2:46 pm to Patrick_Bateman
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The only people who believe in the "not good test takers" excuse either A) have done shitty on standardized tests themselves or B) have a child who does shitty on standardized tests.
Daniel Tosh has a good joke about this. The jist of it is "saying that you're smart but not a good test taker is like someone claiming to be a great artist, but they just have really shitty brush strokes". How can you claim to be smart, yet you're shitty at the thing that proves if you're smart or not?
Posted on 3/4/15 at 2:50 pm to Cosmo
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OTers all made 30s on the ACT when they took it for the Duke program in 8th grade.
I realize this is sarcasm but I'd bet that most of us did make higher than the average NCAA football player which is a 914 on the SAT.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 2:53 pm to Rouge
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i would not sweat is he made the 17 as a sophomore.
I would, my son just made a 19 in 7th grade. He's not some child prodigy either, just studies hard and is a fairly intelligent kid for his age. The average ACT at my old high school is 3-4 points higher than it was 20 years ago when I graduated. 30+ are not as rare as they used to be either. My sister is the Guidance Counselor so she tracks all of that info.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 2:54 pm to TigerNlc
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Couldn't hack it in college huh?
haha im still in it, 23yo though
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 3/4/15 at 2:58 pm to Epic Cajun
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This is ignorant, and you sound very mad.
How is that ignorant? and I forgot to say im still in school, but I am mad at the system
Posted on 3/4/15 at 2:59 pm to anc
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brought enough box tops
my sons school does this but which ever class brings the most gets a pizza party
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canned food drive
they do this too, but just out of the goodness of their hearts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:01 pm to Epic Cajun
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Yes, who fricking cares about cursive?
People who care about education, apparently.
Intentionally surrendering a skill such as reading/writing cursive is not only diminishing the value of traditional education in favor of the "Twitter-sphere" takeover of our younger generations, but is also basically telling Europe and Asia that we're not even trying anymore to maintain our seat among the most education-driven nations in the world. It is an added skill that is so simple to teach kids, yet people like you don't seem to give a shite about it.
Does it not bother you that there are countless Americans who can't even read the first lines on the US Constitution?
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:04 pm to Patrick_Bateman
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The only people who believe in the "not good test takers" excuse either A) have done shitty on standardized tests themselves or B) have a child who does shitty on standardized tests
My sister is one of the smartest people i know (masters in Geology and works for Cheveron making 150+) and up until her sophomore year of college was a sub-par test taker even though she was acing her quizes and assignments. She had to take the ACT twice just to crack 20 (i got a 25 and am not half as smart she is). For her it was just nerves. Once she got over that it was smooth sailing.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:05 pm to anc
Writing skills plummeted when texting came about. People have used the slang version of a word so much they forgot how to spell the real thing. Books with super low reading levels like Hunger Games keep kids at that level. Having everyone on TV speak poorly doesn't help either. shite...OP's rocking the double negative in his post. Which I was astounded that the OT grammar Nazis hadn't picked up yet.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:07 pm to anc
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Are the snowflakes of today so precious that they can't be told that they are mediocre students? Talked to a professor at LSU about it and he said the average student coming in today has no idea how to write at the level of a high school freshman.
I write for a living. The average human being can't write at a high school freshman level. CEOs of companies, people who consider themselves "writers," people with PhDs... it doesn't matter.
I've edited some of the smartest people's writing, and a lot of it is atrocious.
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When I dug down, I figured out that he really is a C student, but he has brought enough box tops to get bonus points, a canned food drive to drop the lowest test score, attending sporting events to get bonus points, and for credit homework that is never checked for accuracy making up sometimes 40 percent of the grade.
You're 100% right. In my experience at LSU, teachers curve extremely generously your first couple years. Problem is the coursework in college requires more studying than high school (at least for me it did), so even if you're getting a test dropped and getting 10pt curves on every test, you have to study to do well enough for what is leftover to be a good grade.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:09 pm to anc
I see it as a good thing. You know, future job security for the rest of us non-tards.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:09 pm to Patrick_Bateman
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The only people who believe in the "not good test takers" excuse either A) have done shitty on standardized tests themselves or B) have a child who does shitty on standardized tests.
I love this logic.
"If you're OK with gay marriage you're a closet homo."
"if you don't express hatred and faux outrage towards cops you're a bootlicker."
"If you're not cool with "fat shaming", you're a fatty."
Am I doing it right?
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:10 pm to ColdDuck
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My 11 year old just took the ACT..
Why are you making an 11 year old take the ACT?
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:11 pm to Patrick_Bateman
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The only people who believe in the "not good test takers" excuse either A) have done shitty on standardized tests themselves or B) have a child who does shitty on standardized tests.
Dumb. There are neurophysiological reasons why someone might not be a good test taker.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:12 pm to anc
Caddo Parish schools have a policy that bonus points can not be more than 2 percent of total possible points. In 25 years I never broke that rule.
The biggest problem is actually discipline. The coddling the federal government requires means that you can not effectively use discipline in many cases, no matter how bad a disruption it is.
Most every teacher I worked with would have traded several raises for the ability to flat-out kick someone out of your class for good.
The biggest problem is actually discipline. The coddling the federal government requires means that you can not effectively use discipline in many cases, no matter how bad a disruption it is.
Most every teacher I worked with would have traded several raises for the ability to flat-out kick someone out of your class for good.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:13 pm to 8thyearsenior
I took it as part of Duke University Talent Identification Program. That was back in 91, I believe. Idk if it's the same now. The test was given to the top students to identify the truly "gifted" ones.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:14 pm to Bluefin
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Does it not bother you that there are countless Americans who can't even read the first lines on the US Constitution?
To be fair, I can read and write proper cursive, but a lot of people's cursive is flat out illegible.
I am currently at my 2nd job with an older boss who insists on hand-writing everything and then handing it over to me to decipher.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:15 pm to LouisianaLady
Cursive is dead.
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