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Question about Vanguard funds

Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:17 am
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10520 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:17 am
I opened an IRA with them last year, and threw all $5,500 into VASGX, which is 80% stocks.

I did this because I did a quick questionnaire with their site and it told me that was the fund to invest in. Being new and inexperienced, I just went with that. I'm realizing now that I want funds with more invested in stocks. Being 24, I'm not going to touch this for awhile so I'd like a fund in the upper 90's % of stock.

I know this is a dumb, stupid question but I cannot seem to find a portfolio analysis through Vanguard that lists the asset mix of their funds. I want to invest in VTSMX, but want to see it's portfolio breakdown first. How can I access this?

Or better yet, what are some funds that are almost 100% stocks?

Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17714 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:44 am to
VWUSX, It's only a $3k minimum. I believe it is 100% large cap stocks.

There's others if you want a combo of small, med and large but the buy ins are usually higher.
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1389 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:45 am to
The vanguard website will have the shareholder report for every fund they have in their research section.
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17714 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:00 am to
LINK

Scroll down to the stock funds, you can see all the top 10s etc.
Posted by wizard of smart
Member since Feb 2009
1545 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:34 am to
I have money right now in vot. Up about 7% since the first of the year. It's a mid cap etf. I compared it with other etfs in Google finance and I liked its performance. I can't see myself ever buying a single stock again

I see it pulling back in the next week or two rhough
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:36 am to
I was gonna pose the same question today. I'm 25 and a 65/35 split that my Wellington fund has just isn't enough for me.
This post was edited on 3/3/15 at 10:44 am
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17714 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:41 am to
quote:

I can't see myself ever buying a single stock again


Why not in a bull market like this?

You can get yearly returns between 10-20% right now and to me the risk isn't that high.

If oil comes back, it could drive things even higher.
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8487 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:04 am to
I just got my shareholder's report for VTSMX. Here's a breakdown of the Top 10 stocks

Apple Inc. Computer Hardware 2.8%
Exxon Mobil Corp. Integrated Oil & Gas 1.7
Microsoft Corp. Software 1.5
Google Inc. Internet 1.3
Johnson & Johnson Pharmaceuticals 1.3
Wells Fargo & Co. Banks 1.3
Berkshire Hathaway Inc. Reinsurance 1.2
General Electric Co. Diversified Industrials 1.1
Procter & Gamble Co. Nondurable
Household Products 1.1
JPMorgan Chase & Co. Banks 1.0
Top Ten 14.3%
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
8547 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 12:09 pm to
Wellingtons fee is higher than others also
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3643 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 12:16 pm to
Wait until the market takes another dip and see how you feel about Wellington then, compared to VTSMX. For a tax advantaged account, Wellington is very attractive.
Posted by CajunTiger92
Member since Dec 2007
2820 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

VTSMX


That is a good one, ETF symbol VTI.

True, the more balanced funds like Wellington will not go down as much when the market goes south but there is a price to be paid on the upside.

For someone in their 20s, they should be as much in equities as they feel comfortable (up to 100% for a retirement account). We are currently in a secular bull market, this is not a time for the young to be in bonds (for retirement type accounts) IMO.
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3643 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 8:38 pm to
True, I agree, but half the battle is staying invested in downturns. A lot of people don't have the stomach to be 100% equities. If 30-40% bonds keeps them in the game, then it's a better choice for them.

The math can even favor balanced funds periodically. It all depends.
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:23 pm to
Wellington is for old people who can't afford risk.

Youngsters need to be in high dividend - VHDYX and the health care fund - VGHCX
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:31 pm to
Wellington's expense fee is .26.

What beats that?
Posted by CajunTiger92
Member since Dec 2007
2820 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:22 pm to
Well an investor needs to be able to sleep at night that's for sure. They should have the allocation that suits their stomach.

For a secular bull market and someone in their 20s that has money that won't be touched for 40 years, they should know putting money in a low cost broad market index fund makes more money than a balanced fund.

Things change if in a secular bear market. Then capital preservation is the goal and a more cautious approach is appropriate.



Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
26975 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

Wellington's expense fee is .26.

What beats that?


I'm 100% into VTSAX at .05%, for one
Posted by Jawja_Joe
Member since Sep 2014
1386 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:51 pm to
Vti
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11900 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 8:16 pm to
quote:

I'm 100% into VTSAX at .05%, for one

So is this one basically the same as VTSMX but the minimum is $10,000 and the fees are lower?

I want to start an IRA with this, so I guess I have to start with VTSMX since you can only do $5,500 a year? And then when the balance gets to $10k I can move it I guess

VBIAX or VTSAX for an IRA, anyone have an opinion?
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12252 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 10:08 pm to
The Vanguard website has all of this information. Click on the fund and it will have a detailed analysis of this information. Just buy the Total Stock Marker fund or even the S&P 500 fund, then put an additional 10% or whatever % you feel comfortable with in a bond fund. GNMA has been very good over the years although it can get clobbered if interest rates rise.
This post was edited on 3/6/15 at 4:20 pm
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 10:21 pm to
Josh, Wellington and VTSAX are apples and BMW's.

Wellington is suited for old people, as it is 60% stock and 40% bonds (mol). Average risk.

VTSAX is 99% stock. Higher risk. Suitable for the younger crowd.

Both are excellent. If I were younger, VTSAX would be in my portfolio. But I always prefer VHYDX and VGHCA for anyone in their 20's and mid-30's. VEIPX, VDAIX (Buffett clone) and VDIGX are also good.

Youngsters don't need a cushion of bonds.
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