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How underrated is Oscar Robertson?

Posted on 3/3/15 at 12:11 am
Posted by okietiger
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 3/3/15 at 12:11 am
Russell Westbrook had a historic February.

Then I see the stat that The Big O did the same thing 12 different months.

Why is this guy overlooked when people consider the greatest players?
This post was edited on 3/3/15 at 8:25 am
Posted by ptra
Member since Nov 2006
1427 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 12:15 am to
People who know basketball know he is one of the all time greats. People like you don't realize basketball was played before Kobe and Lebron
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42436 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 12:16 am to
I think most people have him as top 15 of all time. He only won 1 NBA Finals though as far as I'm aware, and that hurts his cause of getting any higher than top 10 tremendously.
Posted by Nonetheless
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/3/15 at 12:31 am to
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People like you don't realize basketball was played before Kobe and Lebron


wat
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61182 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 1:58 am to
Oscar was before my time but when I was growing up a lot of adults considered Oscar Robertson to be one of the 3 or 4 best players of all time.
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14089 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 5:12 am to
What we think means nothing. Ask those who played against him. Considered by almost all to be best of his time.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59686 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 7:05 am to
Prob a reference to okie saying that Duncan is the second best player ever
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110487 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 7:31 am to
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Why is this guy overlooked when people consider the greatest players?
I don't think he's overlooked at all, he's right up there in most top 5s or top 10s, which would be where he belongs in my opinion, though it's obviously hard having never seen him play.

His numbers are definitely great, averaging the triple doubles, but you really do have to adjust for pace. The game was played at an insanely fast pace then,s omething like 25% or even more possessions for each team.

Haberstroh had a tweet, I forgot exactly the breakdown, but if you adjust the stats per 100 possessions(which is probably the best metric to normalize stats/efficiency), Westbrook's historic February was only matched by Lebron, or something like that. It was something like 40/10/10 for 1 month per 100 possessions, not even Big O had done it, so you can see the difference pace makes if you check out that tweet.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 7:35 am to
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Why is this guy overlooked when people consider the greatest players?
He's not. He's consistently in the top 10 lists.

He doesn't get discussed more because the younger generation has never seen him play.
Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 8:00 am to
Same reason Wilt Chamberlain is. They had an advantage over their teammates at the time.

Still bad arse though
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
3855 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 8:10 am to
He's always mentioned and should be. He's also one of the biggest assholes you will ever meet. When I was in college I went to the same gym as him in Cincy. The weight room was connected to the bball courts and you had to walk through the courts to get to them. One day he was shooting around and his basketball rolled in front of me when I was walking past. Naturally I just picked it up and threw it back to him. He proceeded to get in my face and scream at me, dropping the f bomb several times. Now I wasn't much of a bball player but could hold my own. So instead of backing down my buddy and I picked up a couple of others and played him and his boys full court, and won. In the process Big O continued his tirade, mostly vs his teammates. I thought that maybe he was just having a bad day, but it turned out it was just the way he was. He was the same a-hole every other time I saw him.
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10520 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 8:17 am to
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Now I wasn't much of a bball player but could hold my own. So instead of backing down my buddy and I picked up a couple of others and played him and his boys full court, and won


0% chance this is made up
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60093 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 8:21 am to
How old was he, 68? I bet he still put on a clinic on your arse
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57210 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 8:41 am to
Kobe > Kareem > Magic > Oscar > Shaq > Pippen > Hakeem > Jordan
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32015 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 8:52 am to
if anything i think he is overrated. dominating player against a bunch of scrubs in his era. He avg that triple double a whole season because seasons was much shorter then and playing talent that wasnt close to todays. The game was slow, the players not near athletic. You could put jeremy lin in a high school game and that would be about the same as oscar playing in the nba in that era. Im not saying oscar wasnt good, but to say he was underrated is funny.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57210 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 8:55 am to
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if anything i think he is overrated. dominating player against a bunch of scrubs in his era. He avg that triple double a whole season because seasons was much shorter then and playing talent that wasnt close to todays. The game was slow, the players not near athletic.


This thread isn't about Michael Jordan
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:10 am to
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People who know basketball know he is one of the all time greats. People like you don't realize basketball was played before Kobe and Lebron





And there it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rimshot:
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
3855 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:56 am to
That was 22 years ago, so I think he was 54. Yes, he could still play but nobody wanted to guard him because he was such a dick. We beat them pretty easily a couple of times and let's just say he was not happy.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:04 am to
quote:

He's always mentioned and should be. He's also one of the biggest assholes you will ever meet. When I was in college I went to the same gym as him in Cincy. The weight room was connected to the bball courts and you had to walk through the courts to get to them. One day he was shooting around and his basketball rolled in front of me when I was walking past. Naturally I just picked it up and threw it back to him. He proceeded to get in my face and scream at me, dropping the f bomb several times. Now I wasn't much of a bball player but could hold my own. So instead of backing down my buddy and I picked up a couple of others and played him and his boys full court, and won. In the process Big O continued his tirade, mostly vs his teammates. I thought that maybe he was just having a bad day, but it turned out it was just the way he was. He was the same a-hole every other time I saw him.


WTF?
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66871 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:07 am to
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Now I wasn't much of a bball player but could hold my own. So instead of backing down my buddy and I picked up a couple of others and played him and his boys full court, and won.


lulz. Did you mess around and get a triple double?
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