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FCC now brings cellular data under their control - 5G to have 1Tb/s down speed

Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:05 am
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:05 am
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How would you like a download speed of 1TB per sec on your smartphone? Sounds unbelievable, doesnt it! Researchers at University of Surrey have managed to achieve a breakneck speed of 1TB under test conditions, while testing Fifth Generation Mobile Telephone or 5G network in University of Surrey labs.



Posted by Neauxla_Tiger
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:11 am to
Would be awesome. But I hope there's an equal innovation to cell batteries. 5G isn't worth it if it's making me charge my phone 3 times a day
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:12 am to
The point is you won't need a Cox or comcast.

Cellular will already be faster
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:45 am to
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Would be awesome. But I hope there's an equal innovation to cell batteries. 5G isn't worth it if it's making me charge my phone 3 times a day


How much extra battery would the 5G radio use? I know in current 4G phones, the phone uses more battery when connected to 3G than 4G because the phone is searching for a 4G signal.
Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:46 am to
by the time it makes it into a majority of phones, the power usage will be nearly neglibile
Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:48 am to
Also, I guess this means that the FCC and FTC will be able to enforce strict definitions of what 5G truly is, instead of the 4G/HSPA+/LTE marketing debacle that T-Mob and ATT pushed.
Posted by MamouTiger65
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:49 am to
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Would be awesome. But I hope there's an equal innovation to cell batteries. 5G isn't worth it if it's making me charge my phone 3 times a day


I've seen research where batteries are being made that are capable of charging in under a minute. This would at least take away from the pain of charging multiple times a day.
Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:50 am to
using graphene super capacitors I'm assuming?
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:55 am to
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Also, I guess this means that the FCC and FTC will be able to enforce strict definitions of what 5G truly is, instead of the 4G/HSPA+/LTE marketing debacle that T-Mob and ATT pushed.


yes.

and the taxes you pay now are just for your phone line.

Now you get to pay taxes on cellular data too.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:57 am to
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by the time it makes it into a majority of phones, the power usage will be nearly neglibile



And we'll still have 10GB data caps.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:00 am to
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And we'll still have 10GB data caps.


no way. because you're telling att to shove that uverse crap up their arse because..you..uh..are going to use ATT mobile data instead.

:/
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:08 am to
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no way. because you're telling att to shove that uverse crap up their arse because..you..uh..are going to use ATT mobile data instead.



nobody is going to pay for hard line infrastructure when towers are a fraction of the cost to install and maintain.

nobody is building new fiber lines when this is cheaper.
Posted by Hulkklogan
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:22 am to
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nobody is building new fiber lines when this is cheaper.



How do you think they're getting data to the towers? It's great that in theory 5G can get that much throughput, but we won't see that kind of bandwidth available anytime soon. Be it for political reasons, business practices, or just simple lack of physical infrastructure of network equipment to handle that much bandwidth.

AT&T/Verizon do build out a lot of fiber, but they also do lease last mile fiber from local sources as well. So not only will AT&T need their own network upgrades to support something like that, but they'd also have to depend on local ISPs to do the same.
This post was edited on 2/27/15 at 11:27 am
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 12:01 pm to
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nobody is going to pay for hard line infrastructure when towers are a fraction of the cost to install and maintain.

nobody is building new fiber lines when this is cheaper.
This 1Tbps wirelessly was achieved under lab conditions over 100 meters. Fiber over the same distance can carry at least a couple orders of magnitude more data (I believe the current record is 255Tbps on one strand of fiber over 1km). Bit for bit, wireless has a long way to go before it can match the cost of fiber. It will likely never happen.
Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 12:13 pm to
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It will likely never happen.


But there will be a tipping point where wireless will be cheap/good enough for most use cases.
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 1:00 pm to
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But there will be a tipping point where wireless will be cheap/good enough for most use cases.
I think we will continue as we have thus far: wired when possible, wireless when necessary.

Also, it's possible that we should consider the power requirements as a significant cost. The power necessary to transmit a given amount of data over fiber is likely effectively zero compared to wireless.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 1:18 pm to
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Also, it's possible that we should consider the power requirements as a significant cost. The power necessary to transmit a given amount of data over fiber is likely effectively zero compared to wireless.


installation cost is big too. towers are far cheaper to install and maintain.
Posted by WDE1980
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 2:32 pm to
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How much extra battery would the 5G radio use? I know in current 4G phones, the phone uses more battery when connected to 3G than 4G because the phone is searching for a 4G signal.



That's because it is constantly searching for 4G to take over the connection. If you're in a area that is known for 3G only, you can disable the 4G radio on your phone to preserve battery life.

Ever been in a total blackout on the data network? Phone will die in under 2 hours searching for both 3G & 4G.

if they supply a great 5G broadcast it will probably be no problem.
Posted by DVinBR
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 3:09 pm to
Idk how this data rate is possible without the use of fiber optics
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 4:28 pm to
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Idk how this data rate is possible without the use of fiber optics
I'm sure it's possible to do wirelessly, but wireless does pose the problem of interference. You can always lay more fiber if necessary with zero interference, but spectrum must be shared, and the usable amount is limited. I don't know all the physics involved, but I guess it becomes a matter of how narrow we can make a channel.
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