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Son of Ivan Maisel, ESPN college football writer, missing

Posted on 2/26/15 at 12:06 am
Posted by HeavyCore
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 12:06 am
I can't imagine what Ivan is going through, but this is absolutely horrible news that no family member wants.

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Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 4/21/15 at 12:14 am to
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Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 12:16 am to
shite, that's terrible
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 1:01 am to
Jeez. Doesn't look good. This kid doesn't look too happy. I know it's just one picture, but you have to imagine they would release one of him smiling if they had one. Apologies if I'm reaching too much, and this is offensive. Family is definitely in my prayers.

Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 1:02 am to
Damn, this is scary. Hope it all turns out ok.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 1:20 am to
Ouch, what a shite situation for everyone involved
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 1:45 am to
Looks like a reg hipster and a license type photo.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 2:08 am to
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This kid doesn't look too happy. I know it's just one picture, but you have to imagine they would release one of him smiling if they had one. Apologies if I'm reaching too much, and this is offensive.



Posted by AUTigermitch1995
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Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 2:09 am to
Wow, what an awful situation..
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98083 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 2:18 am to
Damn. Hope they find him and he's ok.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 2:31 am to
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rmnldr


Grow a pair. This is a message board, not a political correctness convention.

Too many people these days just think unhappy children are normal. This kid has been gone since Sunday, and no foul play is suspected. It's extremely likely that he killed himself. And that's a fricking shame because maybe it could have been prevented.

The media ALWAYS looks for the best picture of someone. That's what they do. If they can't find a picture of a damn kid smiling, it's pretty likely that he's not a happy person. Truly happy people don't kill themselves. I've known people who have killed themselves, and it's fricking horrible. Depression is a horrible disease, and more people in this world need to wake up and notice when they have loved ones struggling with it.

Yeah. Maybe I am jumping to conclusions, but sometimes jumping to conclusions can save a life.

If any of your downvoters want to actually talk about it, shoot me an email at SwaggerCopterTD AT gmail.

Or just keep being passive aggressive pussies who downvote without discussion. Your call.
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 2:53 am
Posted by PrideofTheSEC
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:00 am to
Yep depression is a hell of thing. Crazy how it can affect the happiest of people too. I consider myself extremely happy and I even had a spell of depression where I had to seek out help.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:00 am to
No one is offended by it. It was just a dumb post.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:02 am to
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Yep depression is a hell of thing. Crazy how it can affect the happiest of people too. I consider myself extremely happy and I even had a spell of depression where I had to seek out help.


Same. There are two types of depressed people. The obvious kind, and the very not obvious kind (which I fit into).
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:03 am to
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No one is offended by it. It was just a dumb post.


And this thinking is why people don't actively help depressed people. The thing about a depressed person is that they very often won't go seeking help alone.
Posted by LosLobos111
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:06 am to
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Same. There are two types of depressed people. The obvious kind, and the very not obvious kind (which I fit into).


I suffer with major depression myself and it's something that should be talked about and not pushed aside imo.

A lot of problems could be solved by talking but some people are afraid of being judged.

That's what I think.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:47 am to
You aren't wrong about depression

It was you referencing the one picture posted as evidence that he was depressed. There are lots of people that suffer from depression and put on smiles all the time to hide their true feelings. In fact, those seem to be the ones who usually hurt themselves the most because it makes it impossible for others to see what they are truly going through.

Yes, it does seem likely that suicide is what happened. But the fact that you used his picture as evidence to why was just a little weird IMO.


That all being said, I completely agree with you that there is a huge issue with the perception on mental illness and depression in our country.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38197 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 4:33 am to
Grow a pair? For using a fricking emoji? Stop being a sensitive bitch. Assuming so many things off of one photo is stupid and that post was stupid. As someone who has suffered from depression and contemplated murder-suicide I know exactly what some people go through. However, if we look at a picture of someone not smiling and conclude that they're depressed and that they've killed themself then I don't know what to say to you, really. I hope they find him alive and well.
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 4:38 am
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 4:45 am to
The jump I made was not from this picture. It was from assuming this is the best picture they had of him. If you can't find a single picture of a person smiling, it's very likely they are unhappy. Sticking to that.

So if you want to criticize a conclusion I jumped to, criticize that I assumed they worked hard to find a picture of him. They probably just didn't give a frick. You're right. If I had a loved one missing, I'd give the media a picture of them unhappy.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
66875 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 5:02 am to
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Maisel's car was found near the end of the Charlotte Pier, which leads into Lake Ontario, but there was no indication of foul play.


Yikes. Doesn't sound good. Especially when the weather has been pure shite up there lately.
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 5:04 am
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38197 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 5:23 am to
Maybe they wanted to give a neutral face because he probably won't be smiling if they find him that would be my best guess. Btw I didn't down vote you.
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