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re: Josh Hamilton meeting w/ MLB Today

Posted on 2/25/15 at 5:14 pm to
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 5:14 pm to
You never stop being an addict. If it's a relapse, that's just sad.
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
24804 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 6:08 pm to
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Never bought into his bullshite about finding god and quitting drugs



I knew there were issues when the Reds suddenly traded him.
Posted by DEANintheYAY
LEFT COAST
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 6:26 pm to
Rumors are swirling that he is getting 80 games. I wonder if this is grounds to terminate his contract? I would think it is.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 6:32 pm to
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tPOS. Never bought into his bullshite about finding god and quitting drugs


let's all crucify him!! Hell yes, the Internet kicks arse
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8722 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 6:32 pm to
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Rumors are swirling that he is getting 80 games. I wonder if this is grounds to terminate his contract? I would think it is.


I don't know, but the Yankees weren't able to terminate A-Rod's contract when he was suspended for a year, right?
Posted by DEANintheYAY
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 6:40 pm to
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I don't know, but the Yankees weren't able to terminate A-Rod's contract when he was suspended for a year, right?



Well, I'm guessing given his history there could be a clause that allows them to void the contract if he gets suspended for drug use again. Could be wishful thinking though.
Posted by DEANintheYAY
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 6:44 pm to
Seems like there is no such clause. Likely due to the fact that the MLBPA would not allow it. If true, then that sucks!
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 6:44 pm to
U less his contract stated he would be clean the Angels cannot terminate for his first failed test.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31061 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 6:47 pm to
Damn, that sucks. I always hoped he could stay clean and perform.
Posted by DEANintheYAY
LEFT COAST
Member since Jan 2008
31975 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 6:49 pm to
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U less his contract stated he would be clean the Angels cannot terminate for his first failed test.



This wouldn't be his first though, right? I mean he was banned from baseball fro 2 years IIRC.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65761 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 6:52 pm to
If he gets suspended it doesn't take effect until he can actually play right? Since he's injured and gonna miss the first month anyways.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52147 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:07 pm to
He's been fricking his accountability partner
Posted by tunechi
Member since Jun 2009
10170 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:19 pm to
Sucks. Always been a J Ham fan
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33919 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:35 pm to
Jon Heyman
?@JonHeymanCBS

Hear hamilton had relapse. Believe occurred a couple months back. Involved at least cocaine. Honorably, he confessed.

LINK

Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56204 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:38 pm to
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quote:
Josh Hamilton
tPOS. Never bought into his bullshite about finding god and quitting drugs


Same here, never warmed to his bullshite story
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:40 pm to
Wasnt he getting drug tested for street drugs like 3x a week for awhile.

At some point he was sober imho
Posted by emmanuellewis
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2009
3266 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 8:01 pm to
Hamilton has one of the most unbelievable stories (good and bad) and careers in pop culture. Reading his interviews, there seem to be real concerns with him and drugs that are going to be lifelong. More than what you see with someone who is given the typical addict label.

His career has been unbelievable; Reds fans always compared him to the natural for being able to come back and play well in MLB after being away from baseball for a few years. He even had a Roy Hobbs moment that never seems to get brought up. After the Rangers blew game 6 in the 9th, he hit a 2 run HR in the 10th that should have won the world series. Of course, the Rangers just blew the game again the next half inning. Otherwise, that would be one of the most famous home runs in baseball history.

ETA: I also forgot that he threw the ball to the kid where the dad ended up falling over the railing and passing away. Hamilton is a walking 30 for 30 documentary. Fascinating athlete. I'm not surprised but hate to see the relapse news.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 9:19 pm
Posted by Jonas
Northshore
Member since Nov 2010
594 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 8:11 pm to
Article I read from Heyman said it would be his first offense as a MLB player and would probably be required to go to rehab with no suspension.

Article also said he did not fail a drug test, but turned himself in on his own, which I find pretty honorable.

I feel horrible for him. Drugs seem to really have a grip on him.

To those saying he is full of bs, it is possible to believe in God, preach HIS word and still make mistakes with addiction and sin. I am not sure how this makes him a fraud. Without him believing in God, and finding some sort of purpose, he most probably would have been dead long ago. You can call it an act or whatever, but, it probably saved his life. I also do not see how this would deserve a lifetime ban a suggested earlier?

I hope he figures things out, not from a baseball angle, but for his personal life.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 8:57 pm to
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Well, I'm guessing given his history there could be a clause that allows them to void the contract if he gets suspended for drug use again. Could be wishful thinking though.



I'm sure the Angels would love to void his contract. It is unbelievable how much money they owe him for the next 3 years.

But, they weren't able to include a morals clause in his contract. It really sucks for LA, because Hamilton is only a shell of the player he once was, and besides, he can't stay healthy.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259902 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 9:10 pm to
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Josh Hamilton

tPOS. Never bought into his bullshite about finding god and quitting drugs



Damn, some people are cynical as hell
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