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re: Dry Heat or Sous Vide: The Reverse Sear Saga (now with concise title)

Posted on 2/26/15 at 7:45 am to
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16851 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 7:45 am to
quote:

New title:

The Reverse Sear: Dry Heat or Sous Vide?

OR

Dry Heat or Sous Vide: The Reverse Sear Saga


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KosmoCramer
that's some nice work rite there!
After thoughtful contemplation, I prefer the latter and will amend my title. Thank you.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57401 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:04 am to
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Obviously, you have limited knowledge of sous vide.

If you did you wouldn't ask such a ridiculous question.

So im guessing you put the meat straight in the water? are you a tard? you dont vacuum seal it or at least put it in a zip lock?

if you do and put some type of moister in it you know you can let it air dry or pat dry with paper towels so it isnt......"wet"


Dont come at me like that baw.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24719 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:06 am to
I'm partial to doing the entire reverse sear on the grill. I like the char I get on parts of the steak when cooking on direct flame...

I've never tried sous vide, though.


Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16851 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 12:10 pm to
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So im guessing you put the meat straight in the water?


You would have guessed wrong.

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are you a tard?


Projection much?

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you dont vacuum seal it or at least put it in a zip lock?

Of course you simpleton.
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if you do and put some type of moister in it

What exactly is moister? Please explain.

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you can let it air dry

Probably not a good thing to do, food safety and all.

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pat dry with paper towels


Yes, I do this, but it is impossible to get it as dry with paper towels. Coming out of the oven it is very dry and perfect for searing.




Bless your heart. You've doubled up on going full retard on this post.

Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57401 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 1:34 pm to
Ok boss. keep using that gimmick.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16851 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 2:45 pm to
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Ok boss. keep using that gimmick.


Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
Member since Jul 2013
1688 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:57 pm to
why go through so much trouble and time to cook a damn steak? you do know you can cook a world class steak in 5 minutes in a skillet?
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37689 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 4:57 pm to
I pretty much thought the same thing but decided to try it before I knocked it too hard. It's a pretty damn good method if you've got a couple hours to wait on a steak. Way easier to get a badass sear. No more labor intensive, just takes longer. I wouldn't do it on a thinner steak like Gordon Ramsey has in your video.
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 5:02 pm
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24719 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 5:03 pm to
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No more labor intensive, just takes longer.


You have to get creative with WTF you're going to do while waiting for the steak to reach proper temp. I usually have a couple of beers, but then again, I always did think outside the box...
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16851 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 9:06 pm to
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why go through so much trouble and time to cook a damn steak? you do know you can cook a world class steak in 5 minutes in a skillet?


I used to think that way as well, until I really got into cooking. Over the past 20 or so years, I have experimented with tons of cooking techniques and gadgets with mixed (mostly good) results.

I thought I had my steak technique nailed down with sous vide but, on a whim, I tried the reverse sear technique the other night and was blown away with the results. Yes, it certainly takes a little planning and increases the time to cook a steak, but the results were well worth it!

There really is a difference between living and living well. Some people are satisfied eating at the red lobster and applebee's. It sounds like you might fall in that group. I have no problem with that.

I really appreciate learning from the many posters on this board, and the reverse sear technique is legit and for that I thank the many posters on the FDB.
Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
Member since Jul 2013
1688 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 9:20 pm to
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There really is a difference between living and living well. Some people are satisfied eating at the red lobster and applebee's. It sounds like you might fall in that group. I have no problem with that.


Just because you are using the most complicated and unnecessary method of cooking steak does not make you some sort of enlightened culinary genius. Complicated does not always equal better. But I'm sure when you brag to your friends about your 110 step steak cooking process it makes you feel like a michilin star chef.

Its pretty widely accepted that reverse sear is a cheat for those cooks who are less experienced.

And if you're going to sit here and tell me you know more about cooking steak than Gordon Ramsay, you really are dilusional
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24719 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 9:44 pm to
Restaurants don't use the reverse sear because it takes too long.

Reverse sear is a cheat? Where the hell are you getting this from? One minute it's a complicated process with too many steps, and then the next minute it's a "cheat" for simpletons who can't figure out how to cook a steak properly...
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16851 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 9:55 pm to
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Just because you are using the most complicated and unnecessary method of cooking steak does not make you some sort of enlightened culinary genius. Complicated does not always equal better. But I'm sure when you brag to your friends about your 110 step steak cooking process it makes you feel like a michilin star chef.


I like to experiment with different cooking techniques, which technique that I employ do you find the most complicated and unnecessary?

Oh, it's Michelin.

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Its pretty widely accepted that reverse sear is a cheat for those cooks who are less experienced.


Link please, I'd like to research this.

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And if you're going to sit here and tell me you know more about cooking steak than Gordon Ramsay, you really are dilusional


Never said anything remotely resembling this. Who's delusional?

Perhaps, while you learn about food and cooking, you might want to invest in a dictionary.
Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
Member since Jul 2013
1688 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:35 pm to
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which technique that I employ do you find the most complicated and unnecessary?


A 45 minute steak cooking process that requires two separate cooking vessels? Complicated and unnecessary.

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Link please, I'd like to research this.


Sorry, there's no web address for common sense. But if you can't see how sticking something in the oven takes the skill out of cooking a peice of meat, I can't help you.

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Dictionary


Yep, you caught me typing on a smartphone. Feel good about yourself, huh? If you like, I can correct your grammar, which is far from stellar.

I don't know what kind of high horse you ride on, but it's obviously the tallest one this side of the Mason-Dixon. I know how it works for people with low self esteem...you tell yourself how great you are and after a while, you start to believe it.

Enjoy your baked steaks and microwaved rouxs. The rest of us don't have time for gimmicks.

Edit: I see you're from baton rouge. I'm guessing jar roux is your friend.
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 10:52 pm
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16851 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:52 pm to
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A 45 minute steak cooking process that requires two separate cooking vessels? Complicated and unnecessary.



In your opinion, of course. I use multiple methods to cook a steak from sous vide, to BGE, to reverse sear. It's my time not your's.

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Sorry, there's no web address for common sense. But if you can't see how sticking something in the oven takes the skill out of cooking a peice of meat, I can't help you.


Of course there's not a link, you were blowing hot air you blow hard!

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Yep, you caught me typing on a smartphone.


Caught you again, you really are a piece of work!


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I know how it works for people with low self esteem...

Obviously, since you have it. LOL!

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Enjoy your baked steaks and microwaved rouxs.


No microwaved rouxs here, but I learned how to make a roux in 15 minutes from a John Besh book that is incredible. You'll never know because of your closed dipshit feeble mind.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90321 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:55 pm to
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Just because you are using the most complicated and unnecessary method of cooking steak does not make you some sort of enlightened culinary genius


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Its pretty widely accepted that reverse sear is a cheat for those cooks who are less experienced.



Usually the most complicated method of doing things is not considered cheating.


Widely accepted among whom?
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16851 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:56 pm to
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I'm guessing
quote:

jar
roux is your friend.


Jarred, dumbass.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90321 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:04 pm to
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And if you're going to sit here and tell me you know more about cooking steak than Gordon Ramsay, you really are dilusional



Well he starts off his video saying you need to take your steaks out 20 minutes before cooking to let them warm up. This has been proven to be a myth by america's test kitchen and multiple other cooking outlets.



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Sorry, there's no web address for common sense. But if you can't see how sticking something in the oven takes the skill out of cooking a peice of meat, I can't help you.



Skill? Lol that video you posting of Gordon showed no skill at all. Dude literally put oil in a pan and put the steaks in and flipped them. About the only 'skill' involved was spooning butter on top at the end to finish the steaks.
Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
Member since Jul 2013
1688 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:18 pm to
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Jarred, dumbass.




Would you really like me to go back and correct all of your bad grammar? There's plenty.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16851 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:20 pm to
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Would you really like me to go back and correct all of your bad grammar? There's plenty.


Have at it, dickbag!

eta: You might learn something in the process.
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 11:23 pm
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