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Solder wont apply over wires

Posted on 2/20/15 at 11:44 am
Posted by MasterofTigerBait
Member since May 2009
7592 posts
Posted on 2/20/15 at 11:44 am
Im trying to repair/reconnect an old Macbook charger.

When i try to apply the solder it just clumps up in balls on the cords. The how-to videos I have watched make it look easy to just run the solder down the wire and it just melts on.

I have a cheap soldering iron, so it doesn't have a temperature gage. However, i have tried it really hot and after it cooled a bit, and neither has worked.

Thanks for any help
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 2/20/15 at 12:10 pm to
Heat the wires first, not just the solder, and it will flow in just the way it shows in the video.
Posted by robchand58
Denham Springs LA
Member since Nov 2012
626 posts
Posted on 2/20/15 at 12:15 pm to
Agree. Heat the work, not the solder. (Melting a bit of solder on the iron tip speeds things up immensely.)
Posted by MasterofTigerBait
Member since May 2009
7592 posts
Posted on 2/20/15 at 12:16 pm to
Ive been attempting heating them. I've read some stuff about it potentially being harmful to overheat? One video said to heat the wires for 2-3 seconds before applying the solder.

I think my Soldering iron oxidized during my first few trials. Im going to try to clean it and give it another go
Posted by SaltyMcKracker
Member since Sep 2011
2755 posts
Posted on 2/20/15 at 12:29 pm to
Yep, wires need to be hotter. It is difficult to heat all wires evenly with a iron tip, but adding a bit of solder to the iron will help. I like to put the wire in a clip, and align it straight up and down. Then put a bit of solder on the tip of the iron, and touch it to the very end so that the solder will make contact with all wires to help distribute heat. Continue holding the iron up top and apply your solder to the wires, not the iron.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27471 posts
Posted on 2/20/15 at 1:27 pm to
Make sure that other than that small bit of solder you put on the tip to help wick, don't melt your solder on the tip moving it across the wire. Melt your solder on the wire itself away from the tip. If the wire isn't hot enough to melt the solder on its own then it isn't hot enough to bond it.

If you still can't get it to bond, add a little flux to the wire. Just make sure you clean it vigorously afterward as many fluxes are corrosive.
Posted by BabySam
FL
Member since Oct 2010
1504 posts
Posted on 2/20/15 at 3:09 pm to
flux?
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 2/20/15 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

flux?

Almost all electrical solder has a rosin flux core which eliminates the need for external flux. External flux is used more for industrial purposes like soldering copper pipe.

BTW, check your solder to make sure it's rosin core 60/40.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18644 posts
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:02 am to
I have repaired these before and have experienced the same thing.

Make sure the wires are not dirty. Twist the individual wires together as best as you can, and then wipe flux paste on them. Apply the soldering iron to the wire, wait a short moment for heat to transfer to the twisted wires, and then apply the solder to the hot wires themselves near the iron. The solder will transfer to the wires on its own.

Then you can heatshrink tube over the repaired portion.
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 2/22/15 at 6:19 am to
Or you can throw away your soldering iron and get some of THESE.
Posted by MasterofTigerBait
Member since May 2009
7592 posts
Posted on 2/22/15 at 8:06 am to
quote:

Or you can throw away your soldering iron and get some of THESE.



My BIL is a electrician and mentioned those. Unfortunately he was drunk and fishing when i needed help

Finally got it done though. Thanks for the help everyone
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