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Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:48 am to bearhc
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I fish a 19ft Nautic Star and go out to Bay Eloi and Black Bay with no problem. If it is that rough that a 19 footer will have trouble out there you won't be catching fish anyway. Everybody wants a bigger boat, but you need the boat that fits what you are looking for and what you can afford. You can get into the deep Biloxi Marsh with this boat also except when cold fronts have blown the water out. I can easily get into Muscle Bay, Pete's, Cutoff, etc. in the fall and for reds in the summer. You do not need a 24 foot boat to do what you want to do.
This; and I fish the same areas. For the OP, if you do decide to entertain idea of used, I can tell you we sold our 2 year old Nautic Star 2110 for 28K in pristine condition with Yamaha F150, upgraded to the new 224XTS largely for the extra width. I'd put NS slightly ahead of Blazer due solely to fit and finish and components quality (more SS, less plastic) but Blazer is a great, proven boat. Blue Wave is a great one too but not familiar with their pricing; Tidewater I'd put on the lower end of all four you mentioned but may get you more overall boat for your money.
Of note on those handy rear jump seats, particularly on the shorter boats 19-21 ft, do yourself a favor and make sure to get trim tabs. The problem with those rear seats is that everyone wants to sit in them while running so you get really stern heavy. The shorter boats don't have the bow weight to keep it from porpoising and most of the big four strokes don't have the negative trim range to keep the bow down. Speaking from 1st hand experience here! Tabs will give you much better control of the boat in choppy water as well
good luck!
Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:05 am to eng08
Buddy bought a used 24' tidewater on the hull truth last year. Think he payed $34,000. That's with a 225hp 4 stroke Yamaha. That is one fine boat. We were cruising in 3 footers in Lake P this past fall at 35mph and nothing inside the boat got wet. His dad has a yellowfin and thinks the tidewater rides better. When I do get a bay boat, it's tidewater all day
Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:07 am to lsuson
Tigah, you ever rode in a tidewater? Nautic star isn't as good in my opinion.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:13 am to lsuson
Will be 100% honest and tell you upfront that, no, I have never ridden in one. I have, however, crawled all over them up and down, in and out as a good friend of mine works for a dealer. They have a few bay boat models, one looks exactly like the old Sea Pro's and the other has a huge "Carolina Flare" which makes for a dry ride. So your report on the dry ride I can certainly believe. That said; look at a NS vs. a Tidewater in fit and finish and quality of components, the nitty gritty. For example, last I checked TW's came with the usual plastic latches with a metal bar across them, similar to Blazers. NS uses all metal latches; these are areas builders cut corners on to save money and keep the price point down. Doesn't mean the TW isn't a good hull, by any means. If it's got a Yammy on the back, I'd drive it.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:22 am to Tigah D
I hear ya. Ride in one if you get a chance. My buddies is rigged out. 2 power poles, inside the railing LED's. Has LED's in the transom that shoot light deep. Great for night fishing or just looking cool at night with navy blue prop wash. Clips on the bow for a standing platform. One thing I'm glad he doesn't have is a Bimini top. That takes away fishing space. We fish 4 guys very comfortably.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 11:42 am to lsuson
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tidewater
Those are great price point hulls as well. Like you said, they're very dry. A lot of guys around Slidell run those boats in the Lake for that reason.
eta: @OP - if you can't get an idea from my posts, this is the bottom line: unless you're a brand whore, go get in a boat and ride around in it if you get the chance. They're all good boats in certain areas to certain extents. It 100% depends what you want as a fisherman and what you can afford. You've gotten some great suggestions in this thread from some knowledgeable folks.
This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 11:45 am
Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:06 pm to Catman88
Go see Donald at Aqua Marine Nautical Star is the way to go. And get the 150.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:49 pm to bluemoons
Go up to 22' if possible....being able to reach across the wave makes all the difference on big lakes and bays. And you will get bored quick and want to shoot offshore for some real adventure on a nice day.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 12:57 pm to PapaPogey
I have owned Nautic Star 2200 w/200 Yamaha. I now own a Blue wave 2400 w/300 Yamaha. I have also owned 2 champions. Both with yamahas. The NS was a very good boat for me. But there is no comparison to the Blue Wave ride.
I would still recommend a Nautic Star. It's a great boat. There are several listed on Louisiana Sportsman website that fall within your budget. The 2200 is a great boat. The 2110 is an excellent boat as well. 2110 is a little lighter and usually has the 150 pushing it. It will do all you need. Great setup, especially for fishing.
If you would like some more info on them, send me a msg. I spend a lot of time on the water. I can give you some first hand info on both boats.
I would still recommend a Nautic Star. It's a great boat. There are several listed on Louisiana Sportsman website that fall within your budget. The 2200 is a great boat. The 2110 is an excellent boat as well. 2110 is a little lighter and usually has the 150 pushing it. It will do all you need. Great setup, especially for fishing.
If you would like some more info on them, send me a msg. I spend a lot of time on the water. I can give you some first hand info on both boats.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 3:11 pm to CountryTiger00
Just an update:
I have narrowed my search down to the Sportsman 207 or the Sportsman 214 Tourney. At the price point its slightly more than I wanted to spend but gets me a lot more boat and features that I want.
BTW I found this site:
LINK
I have narrowed my search down to the Sportsman 207 or the Sportsman 214 Tourney. At the price point its slightly more than I wanted to spend but gets me a lot more boat and features that I want.
BTW I found this site:
LINK
This post was edited on 3/20/15 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 3/20/15 at 6:39 pm to Catman88
Finding legit prices online for new boats is a PITA.
Bascially have to call and get the price. Then, every dealer options them differently so comparing apples to apples is tough.
Good luck.
Fwiw, in that price range, NS has a lot of features.
Bascially have to call and get the price. Then, every dealer options them differently so comparing apples to apples is tough.
Good luck.
Fwiw, in that price range, NS has a lot of features.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 10:58 pm to Catman88
At 2000 lbs that is very heavy for a 20 ft bay boat. Which isn't a problem but make sure you get a 150 hp motor. I'm wouldn't dare try to push it with a 115. Even with the 150 it won't be very fast.
By comparison the Nautic Star 2110 is 1550 lbs and the 1910 1350 lbs.
By comparison the Nautic Star 2110 is 1550 lbs and the 1910 1350 lbs.
Posted on 3/21/15 at 8:25 am to Catman88
several folks have recommended them, but i'll throw another vote towards NS. we got a 1910 with a yamaha 115 about 5 years ago specifically to be able to get up in the marsh around fourchon/leeville. the boat has been fantastic, and that little yamaha just sips gas.
the boat has a very impressive ride for a 19 footer, and has no problem getting accross timbalier bay in nasty days.
the most important thing is deciding what you are going to be using the boat for. if you plan on spending most of your time up in the marsh i would get no bigger than a 21 ft. both the extra length and weight could make for a real shitty day if you get caught on an oyster reef.
the boat has a very impressive ride for a 19 footer, and has no problem getting accross timbalier bay in nasty days.
the most important thing is deciding what you are going to be using the boat for. if you plan on spending most of your time up in the marsh i would get no bigger than a 21 ft. both the extra length and weight could make for a real shitty day if you get caught on an oyster reef.
Posted on 3/22/15 at 8:22 am to Catman88
I have a 19ft Nautic Star with a Yamaha F115, and it can go 42 mph with two large men aboard. I can also access most of the Biloxi Marsh with no problem. I have gone into Black Bay with the boat, but I do pay strict attention to the forecasts and the weather while I am on the water. I have fished the Trestles with no problem at all.
Posted on 3/22/15 at 9:05 am to Catman88
I'd take my time and buy used. It's nice to get a brand new boat but if you can find one a couple years old you can save a chunk of dough. You'd be amazed at the people that buy spur of the moment and later realize they don't use the boat enough to pay that note year round or that they could hire a guide two or three times a year for what it costs to go fishing a few times a year on their own and probably catch more fish. Only way I wouldn't buy used is because that nobody is turning loose of them or that I can't get decent financing.
Posted on 3/22/15 at 10:23 am to 007mag
Speaking of financing used, who do you guys use?
Posted on 3/22/15 at 7:07 pm to AutoYes_Clown
Dow Credit Union now it's Essential Credit Union
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