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Question/Rant about Parenthood: re: Max Braverman (spoilers through S2)
Posted on 2/10/15 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 2/10/15 at 1:11 pm
I've seen the first 2 seasons, and I'm appalled and what terrible parents Adam & Kristina are. Max is a coddled brat nearly every episode, and never has any consequences. Does he act like this the entire series?
I can't imagine the stress of dealing with an autistic child, and the special attention and care you would have to provide to make them comfortable. But do the Bravermans ever actively teach him right from wrong?
This post was inspired by the season 2 finale when the entire family is in the waiting room after Amber's accident, and he goes off about how he doesn't care about Amber and he just wants pancakes.
I can't imagine the stress of dealing with an autistic child, and the special attention and care you would have to provide to make them comfortable. But do the Bravermans ever actively teach him right from wrong?
This post was inspired by the season 2 finale when the entire family is in the waiting room after Amber's accident, and he goes off about how he doesn't care about Amber and he just wants pancakes.
This post was edited on 2/10/15 at 2:00 pm
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 1:25 pm to foreverLSU
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Does he act like this the entire series?
Yes. Max is a horrible piece of trash and Kristina is a horrible person that lets him get away with murder.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 2:08 pm to foreverLSU
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Does he act like this the entire series?
Yes
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This post was inspired by the season 2 finale when the entire family is in the waiting room after Amber's accident, and he goes off about how he doesn't care about Amber and he just wants pancakes.
Definitely not the worst thing he does in the series without any real consequences.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 2:41 pm to foreverLSU
Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. Max was the worst part of this show. I get that he's autistic but there are never any consequences for his actions. He's a giant a-hole to everyone all the time and most of the time his parents blame everyone and everything except for Max. If he were my kid his arse would have been beat a few times.
And yes, he gets worse as time goes on.
And yes, he gets worse as time goes on.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 4:50 pm to foreverLSU
Have y'all actually dealt with autistic kids before?
I understand how it is because I once felt the same way, but one of my close family members (who deals with autistic every single day) swears that's an honest portrayal of it.
My first reaction was, "He can get over a schedule change!" and they replied that it's true that autistic children completely shut down in those kind of situations.
And they also said that Max is very high-functioning.
Don't get me wrong, I definitely think Kristina is soft on him (due to her nature), especially in the last season and the girl situation, but the positive reinforcement and behavior therapies they instill (bargaining, reasoning, etc.) are correct.
I will agree though I think Hollywood definitely adds a dramatic effect (I think IRL Kristina and Adam pull him off to the side and explain WHY they care about Amber and always direct the conversation of WHY they're doing something).
I understand how it is because I once felt the same way, but one of my close family members (who deals with autistic every single day) swears that's an honest portrayal of it.
My first reaction was, "He can get over a schedule change!" and they replied that it's true that autistic children completely shut down in those kind of situations.
And they also said that Max is very high-functioning.
Don't get me wrong, I definitely think Kristina is soft on him (due to her nature), especially in the last season and the girl situation, but the positive reinforcement and behavior therapies they instill (bargaining, reasoning, etc.) are correct.
I will agree though I think Hollywood definitely adds a dramatic effect (I think IRL Kristina and Adam pull him off to the side and explain WHY they care about Amber and always direct the conversation of WHY they're doing something).
Posted on 2/10/15 at 5:11 pm to foreverLSU
like the poster above me mentioned, his portrayal is actually perfect. as is the family reaction. it's been written about by people who work with autistic children and praised. in fact, the actor who plays Max studied under a psychologist who treats autistic children in order to play the role. it's amazing the job he does.
it gets a bit better in later seasons as he ages, as is the norm with autistic children, but by no means perfect. there's a pretty bad one in the last season you'll be pissed at. but, having worked with autistic children myself, i can attest it's spot on.
it gets a bit better in later seasons as he ages, as is the norm with autistic children, but by no means perfect. there's a pretty bad one in the last season you'll be pissed at. but, having worked with autistic children myself, i can attest it's spot on.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 9:17 pm to quail man
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like the poster above me mentioned, his portrayal is actually perfect. as is the family reaction. it's been written about by people who work with autistic children and praised.
I see the merit to their reactions to Max- to an extent. It's obviously a "handle with care" situation where you cannot discipline or approach him the way they would with Hattie. It just baffles me how you don't see them trying to teach him right from wrong or hold him accountable for his behavior. Ever.
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in fact, the actor who plays Max studied under a psychologist who treats autistic children in order to play the role. it's amazing the job he does.
The actor does a great job in the role, no doubt.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 7:00 am to foreverLSU
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It just baffles me how you don't see them trying to teach him right from wrong or hold him accountable for his behavior. Ever.
This! I get that he's autistic and needs schedules, routine etc but there are times he's just an a-hole and needs to be disciplined or at least explained to why something is wrong.
****Spoiler Alert*****
In later seasons Sarah dates Hank who we find out has Asperger's. This is even news to him so I assume his parents didn't know and disciplined him like a normal kid. Hank isn't nearly the a-hole that Max is. I also think they use Hank to show us what Max will be like when he's a man. I don't think Max will be anything like Hank due to his parents. I think Max is gonna get beat the frick up a lot in his adult years since he's such an a-hole.
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