re: Spider-Man will officially be part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe

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Part of the comics, and really what most non comic readers seem to struggle with the most while watching the individual films, is "Where in the shite are the others heroes when XYZ threat was happening?!?"

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I've seen this mentioned more than a few times but the Winter Soldier still made a billion dollars or whatever.

My point is, and I don't mean to be dismissive, the "struggle" doesn't seem to be effecting ticket sales. It seems to just be the easy gripe for those that feel the need to.

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My point is, and I don't mean to be dismissive, the "struggle" doesn't seem to be effecting ticket sales. It seems to just be the easy gripe for those that feel the need to.

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Right...I didn't mean it was keeping people away or anything. It's just a general complaint you seem to hear more often than not from those who are not as familiar with this due to having read some of the books. In their defense...it's a legit gripe, but the only way the books work are if you grant the fact that sometimes the group will not be together and they will deal with things on their own...even if you're not fully apprised as to what that is or told what they were doing when the other stuff was going down.

I just tend to think in this case it's a harder sell to suggest that there was an active Spidey lose in NYC and Loki is reigning shite down on the city and he never shows up? Not even for a meet and greet with the other heroes that saved the day...just to see if he can join them for felafels?

Rather than having to explain away his absence, since they are almost certainly going to recast, seems easier just to have Spidey begin after the Loki NYC stuff.

I jumped for joy

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I've seen this mentioned more than a few times but the Winter Soldier still made a billion dollars or whatever.

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Everyone's absence can be explained fairly well in Winter Solider.

Simply saying Peter was in a different part of NYC during Avengers stretches believability too far IMO.

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I think way too much is made of this. Spidey could have been there, he just wasn't in the movie. Where was I during the Battle of New York? Oh, I was busy saving people from rampaging bad guys while y'all hogged all the credit. I would've met you for schwarma, but I missed by invite. How about you text a guy? The fact is, the Avengers wasn't Spidey's story. But there's no earthly reason he couldn't have been saving people in NYC offscreen, it just didn't affect the narrative. Same with Daredevil.

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Oh...I'm not saying it CAN'T be argued, just that to do so stretches plausibility even for a comic book movie. The mileage of others varies it appears.

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This is the sort of nitpicky pedantry that passes for criticism on those 1000 Wrong With... videos but really aren't coherent criticisms of a film. And even if they were, no one gives a crap. You only have 2 hours, you can't tell EVERYONE'S story.

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True...but that doesn't make the criticism any less logical. It is, unfortunately, part of what you give up when you create a team that has already shown they will be called to come together when there's a gigantic world threatening event. You either, A) wave it off like you have to with Clark Kent slapping on some glasses and suddenly even a Pulitzer Prize winning investigative reporter can't recognize he's Superman, or B) You explain it by stating where they were. I'm fine with the first as part and parcel of what you need to give up when you sit down to read/watch a comic book story...though I kind of would prefer the later.

That's why I think it's easy to make the case a bunch of the off world or bigger heroes would not be sitting around waiting for the events in CAWS, or IM3...but I really do think Spidey is different in that Loki's War in NYC in Avengers happened in his city and at this point has never gone anywhere else. Simply saying he was there but we never saw him despite the fighting taking place in a fairly small section of the city seems silly.

Either way...and this is the main point...I'm happy Spider-Man is coming home.

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Have you seen anything since The Avengers?

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Yes. Finally saw Winter Soldier a few weeks ago. Really liked it. I think that catches me up.

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Thor is on Earth and as of now, is living in Avengers Tower. In Thor 2, Loki refers to the Avengers as Thor's "new friends"

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Thor 2 is set in Asgard. The rainbow bridge is broken and all that, and Thor and Loki go on an adventure, warily, together. It ties into Earth, but Thor's primary interests are still with his home world (and making it with Natalie Portman). Sure, Loki would refer to them that that way. They all united to beat him. And I'm not saying that all hate each other or anything, but they all have their own stuff going on.

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In TWS, not only does this establish Widow and Rogers are friends, but with Widow wearing the Hawkeye necklace and at the end of the movie "You know where to find us" as in Avengers Tower, referenced on screen as well.

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Well, they work together. Cap is a SHIELD agent, too. And Widow is in the Cap movie as a co-lead. So clearly, there's no reason to explain why she isn't helping... she is. Hawkeye is more difficult to explain but for all we know he's off in Madripoor trying to steal back The Tape. But it makes sense why the other Avengers aren't in the movie. Same with Iron Man 3. Tony doesn't want to call anyone. He wouldn't even consider that an option, really.

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IM3- Tony Stark was talking to his buddy (Science Bros) Banner the whole time.

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Yeah, he runs his thoughts by him in a funny scene at the end, but Banner is not someone who wants to get involved in superheroing if he doesn't have to. Hulk sits on the sidelines because he's never asked to join in. Why would they?

All of the Avengers have their own lives going on. They'll unite if they have to, as Nick Fury points out, but they aren't up in each other's business. There's no reason to explain where everyone is. It serves no narrative purpose and is wholly unnecessary.

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Thor 2 is set in Asgard. The rainbow bridge is broken and all that, and Thor and Loki go on an adventure, warily, together. It ties into Earth, but Thor's primary interests are still with his home world (and making it with Natalie Portman).

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It's like you haven't even seen this movie.

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Thor is on Earth and as of now, is living in Avengers Tower

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Heard they're thinking about kicking him out due to how fast he's going through the cups.

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The easiest out in that situation would be to have him get bitten and get his powers after the fact and have him as an up and coming hero dealing with street thugs. Then, you have him cross paths with the Avengers in some way. That's how I would do it anyway.

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Spidey, or any hero, could just be captured and trapped by some villain somewhere. That's how I'd explain it