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Basketball foul: touching the hand after the shot is in the air
Posted on 2/4/15 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 2/4/15 at 8:49 pm
It's never made sense to me that this is a foul. How does it affect the shot when it's after the shot takes place?
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 8:53 pm to tigeroarz1
Can't get everything into the shot. Follow through is an important part of throwing. Look at qbs.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 8:53 pm to tigeroarz1
affects the follow thru, which is very important
Posted on 2/4/15 at 8:57 pm to Lester Earl
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affects the follow thru
After the ball leaves the hand, it does not affect the follow through. That is ridiculous.
I've played basketball forever. Never has me being hit AFTER the ball leaves my hand ever affected a shot. It is a still a foul, but I have never understood why either.
Now, if the guy runs you over or clobbers you, then it is a foul just because it is a defensive player running over an offensive player. But, if the shot gets off, then him hitting your hand should not be a foul, in my opinion.
Handchecking should be called WAY more than this.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 8:59 pm to Lester Earl
Say you shoot a bullet out of a gun. The bullet leaves the gun and then someone knocks the gun out of your hand. I see it that way. How does this affect the bullet or the aim prior to the shot?
Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:03 pm to tigeroarz1
It doesn't mess with the shot necessarily, but you're just asking for it if you allow players to hit each other after they shoot it. It would happen every shot and throw players so off.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:12 pm to tigeroarz1
Shooter is considered in the act of shooting until he reaches the floor.
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 8:18 am
Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:18 pm to Corn Dawg Nation
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Shooter is considering in the act of shooting until he reaches the floor.
/thread
Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:20 pm to Corn Dawg Nation
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Shooter is considering in the act of shooting until he reaches the floor.
Although scientifically I don't agree, this explanation/rule works. The game is so fast the refs can't accurately call this all of the time. Especially prior to recorded games and it would make the games longer with reviews.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:44 pm to tigeroarz1
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Say you shoot a bullet out of a gun. The bullet leaves the gun and then someone knocks the gun out of your hand. I see it that way. How does this affect the bullet or the aim prior to the shot?
Say someone slapped the shite out of you every time you fired the gun? How many times would they have to slap you before it began to affect your shot?
Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:55 pm to tigeroarz1
I played bball thru HS and I think the rule is ok. If anything it really should be the result of the shot plus possession as it technically occurs after the shot is released. However this would just create more controversy.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:00 pm to tigeroarz1
Because you're fouling him while he's shooting.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:06 pm to AlaTiger
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After the ball leaves the hand, it does not affect the follow through. That is ridiculous.
then why follow through at all?
you cant be serious here
the gun analogy is stupid.
think of a Quarterbacks arm being hit as he releases a football. It can affect distance, and most importantly, accuracy
Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:13 pm to tigeroarz1
Real lockdown defenders defend with their feet
Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:28 pm to SaltyMcKracker
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Say someone slapped the shite out of you every time you fired the gun? How many times would they have to slap you before it began to affect your shot?
You don't think that players would adjust? If players were allowed to slap hands after the ball was released then the shooters would have long-since learned how to shoot and quickly put their hands back down.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:38 pm to Lester Earl
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think of a Quarterbacks arm being hit as he releases a football. It can affect distance, and most importantly, accuracy
The question is 'after' the shot not 'as' the shot.
quote:It's like me asking a question. Immediately after completion you say 'yes'. Did you affect/interrupt me finishing my sentence by responding after the question?
the gun analogy is stupid
Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:25 am to theGarnetWay
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You don't think that players would adjust?
Should they have to?
The other component to this rule is that it's mainly preventative in my estimation. If you know that you are allowed zero (or close to it) contact with a shooter even after he has released, you're less likely to jump at him in a way which could create contact. Without this rule, we'd have many more instances of considerable contact after shots. When you draw the line at 0 contact and guys step over that (figuratively), you get minimal contact. If you draw the line at minimal contact, when guys go beyond the allowance you get hard contact.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:32 am to Lester Earl
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think of a Quarterbacks arm being hit as he releases a football. It can affect distance, and most importantly, accuracy
You actually brought up the perfect comparison to bolster his point. Roughing the passer isn't called if the qb is tackled a split second after he throws the ball because it doesn't affect the trajectory of the already-released ball. The QB knows he's about to get hit but can still throw the ball accurately, why cant a shooter do the same knowing he about to get his hand slightly bumped?
Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:34 am to ManBearTiger
Because you are allowed to hit a QB before the throw, and not allowed to hit a jump shooter before the shot. 
Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:34 am to DoreonthePlains
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When you draw the line at 0 contact and guys step over that (figuratively), you get minimal contact. If you draw the line at minimal contact, when guys go beyond the allowance you get hard contact.
Despite the current state of officiating in basketball, it is a much better game when physicality is allowed.
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