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The Browns are an absolute mess

Posted on 2/4/15 at 4:45 pm
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 4:45 pm
Interesting piece on Deadspin, citing two different reports, one by a Browns beat writer and a different, well-sourced report by Jason La Canfora, on just how dysfunctional they've been under Haslam thus far.

Jimmy Haslam Is The Dented-Can Store Jerry Jones

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We'll start with a report from the Northeast Ohio Media Group claiming that the Browns are in danger of losing a draft pick because their GM, Ray Farmer, was caught texting advice to coaches on the sideline during games [...] Farmer is facing a multigame suspension — as many as three or four games — and the Browns are facing the loss of a draft pick if the probe, conducted by in-house NFL executives, shows that Farmer acted improperly.


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As La Canfora's sources tell it, everything is falling apart because of owner Jimmy Haslam, an unrepentant criminal who apparently has no idea how to run a football team:

"Jimmy is way too hands on," said one team source. "He's like Jerry Jones, only without the football knowledge. There's tension between Alec and Pettine. Everybody sees that. Alec is involved in everything; it's too much for him. There are no divisions. The guys on the business side want to run football operations. The GM wants to coach the team and have input on play calling. Jimmy calls the shots, and everyone is afraid of him with that quick trigger finger. If you stand up to Jimmy, he's done with you. Jimmy's own worst enemy is Jimmy."

"It's a mess," another team source said. "Everyone is trying to do everyone else's job. It's crazy."


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And then there's Haslam's meddling. He was the driving force behind the Johnny Manziel draft pick, and La Canfora reports that he also blocked a Josh Gordon trade that would have netted the team a second-round pick in 2013. Now, Haslam is reportedly plotting to trade up in this year's draft so that he can take Marcus Mariota. The sad thing is, that might not even be the worst idea. With Manziel not looking like anything close to an NFL quarterback and Brian Hoyer sure to walk in free agency, the Browns' best option at quarterback right now is Connor Shaw.
Posted by Nonetheless
Luka doncic = goat
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 4:46 pm to
They've been a mess since returning to Cleveland, really.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 4:48 pm to
Love it.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12375 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 4:49 pm to
What's sad is that when he bought the team, people were lauding him as an upgrade over Randy Lerner because he was a minority owner in the Steelers.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 4:58 pm to
Seems like not too long ago, they were a QB away from contenders....(well, maybe an offense).

I thought their defense was pretty good.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:10 pm to
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Seems like not too long ago, they were a QB away from contenders....(well, maybe an offense).



They're turning into the Rex Ryan era Jets. Good defensive coaching, no offense, terrible ownership and front office.
Posted by Thurber
NWLA
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:26 pm to
Dumpster fire
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9235 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 6:20 am to
The new Browns have been an absolute disgrace to one of the richest franchises in the history of the NFL. Being a Browns fan at this time is making me lose my love for the game and team that i loved as a kid. The largest organized fanbase in the world deserves better then this. The Browns better wake up, because i know plenty of Browns fans that arent burdening their kids with being a Browns fan anymore. Generations of Browns fans will be lost if they dont fix this sinking ship.
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 6:20 am
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 6:40 am to
Sounds like Haslem isn't taking the Browns to the Superbowl.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 6:44 am to
Haslam is a crook who should be in prison...
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 6:58 am to
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The new Browns have been an absolute disgrace to one of the richest franchises in the history of the NFL. Being a Browns fan at this time is making me lose my love for the game and team that i loved as a kid. The largest organized fanbase in the world deserves better then this. The Browns better wake up, because i know plenty of Browns fans that arent burdening their kids with being a Browns fan anymore. Generations of Browns fans will be lost if they dont fix this sinking ship.


It's a shame to see one of the great franchises in such disrepair.



This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 8:25 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51235 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 7:03 am to
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It's a shame to see one of the great franchises in such disrepair.


eh, I consider the "great franchise" to be in Baltimore now.

This new franchise is a disgrace.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 7:18 am to
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The largest organized fanbase in the world
wait... what?
Posted by EastNastySwag
Member since Dec 2014
5978 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 7:24 am to
God really does hate Cleveland
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 7:26 am to
Haslam the vol donor, love seeing him lose.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 7:27 am to
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Haslam is a crook who should be in prison...
absolutely
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 7:28 am to
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God really does hate Cleveland


I do not hate it, just a natural disdain for the place.
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 7:36 am to
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Now, Haslam is reportedly plotting to trade up in this year's draft so that he can take Marcus Mariota


Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110626 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 7:59 am to
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We'll start with a report from the Northeast Ohio Media Group claiming that the Browns are in danger of losing a draft pick because their GM, Ray Farmer, was caught texting advice to coaches on the sideline during games
This can't be true, only the Patriots cheat!!!
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9235 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 8:34 am to
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wait... what?


LINK

The Browns have the largest organized fanbase in the world. Browns Backers Worldwide organization has 105,000 registerd members, 370 clubs in 12 different countries complete with membership ID cards. In order to start a chapter, you must register and fill out a charter application. Alon Shvut in the West Bank has a chapter with 129 members. Browns fans are some of the best fans in all of sports! So loyal that it may actually be a bad thing.
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 8:37 am
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