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Once Upon a Time in the West

Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:23 pm
Posted by saint amant steve
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Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:23 pm
So my girlfriend, a classic cinephile of sorts, and I decided to watch what is supposedly one of the best, if not the greatest, Western films of all-time.

Even with the bloated run time of 165 minutes we still sought to endure this supposed 'masterpiece' on our Saturday night.

Apparently, I missed the boat on this one. I thought the plot was convoluted, if not outright pointless at times, and I had little to no vested interest in any of the characters.

Charles Bronson's character was indeed a badass but I failed to understand his motivation.

Meanwhile, I would hardly consider Henry Fonda's character a classic villain when juxtaposed with other Westerns.

And I fricking hated Claudia Cardinale's character in every respect. frick...that...bitch.

How anyone can state that this is better than The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly or The Outlaw Josey Wales is beyond me.

The cinematography was superb and as usual Ennio Morricone's score was outright brilliant.

However, there were few, if any, classic lines and half the time I was struggling to understand what the hell was being said during dialogue exchanges.

Am I the only one who hated this film?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:27 pm to
yeah i'm not a fan of this one

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but I failed to understand his motivation.

oh well...wow.

*harmonica plays*

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Meanwhile, I would hardly consider Henry Fonda's character a classic villain when juxtaposed with other Westerns.

yeah that was a big one. he wasn't evil enough or complex enough to register with my modern palate

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How anyone can state that this is better than The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly is beyond me.

any of that triology

or the wild bunch

or unforgiven

and if anybody says tombstone i'm going to kill a motherfricker
Posted by Thurber
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Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:28 pm to
I've never seen it.
Posted by johnnydrama
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Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:34 pm to
I've never understood the love that this movie has gotten.
Posted by lsewwww
Member since Feb 2009
376 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:34 pm to
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but I failed to understand his motivation.


For petes sake......

Did you even watch the movie? at least the ending?

I won't give the spoiler but at least wiki it
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 2/1/15 at 1:08 pm to
It's the greatest western ever made.

I can't understand how a fan of the genre could dislike this film.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 2/1/15 at 1:26 pm to
Greatest Western ever.

Best story? No. But it's all about MOOD. The direction and cinematography suck you into what the West must have truly been like back in the day.

Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:11 pm to
I think it's mostly style points.
Posted by tigers32
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:26 pm to
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I can't understand how a fan of the genre could dislike this film.

Completely agree.
This post was edited on 2/1/15 at 2:26 pm
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:43 pm to
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and if anybody says tombstone i'm going to kill a motherfricker



I'm your huckleberry
Posted by saint amant steve
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:44 pm to
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For petes sake......

Did you even watch the movie? at least the ending?

I won't give the spoiler but at least wiki it


I get his need for revenge against Frank, but why the hell was he attempting to help out Jill McBain? Hell, he leaves her behind after he kills Frank so it's not like he wanted to necessarily have her for his own.
Posted by saint amant steve
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
5695 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

It's the greatest western ever made.

I can't understand how a fan of the genre could dislike this film.


What's the basis of your opinion?

There were times when it felt like a great film (e.g. the opening scene's cinematography and the mood referenced by Rex), but then there were other times when it just seemed very pedestrian.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:53 pm to
keep your lovin brother happy
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 2/1/15 at 3:05 pm to
Agreed. I think it's overrated. Another revenge story. Good, Bad, Ugly was the best western IMO. Fist full of Dollars was pretty good too.
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 2/1/15 at 3:26 pm to
I don't dislike it but I don't see how it belongs on any list of greatest westerns. Forgettable plot, forgettable characters.

My #1 will always be The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance with Lonesome Dove a close second.
This post was edited on 2/1/15 at 3:28 pm
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:01 am to
Intersting. I just saw liberty valance last night and it was a good movie.

If you like lonesome dove, check out "the big coutry" with Gregory peck. It's on amazon prime. It's a combination of lonesome dove + hatfields and McCoy. Gregory Peck's character as him McKay is on of the most masculine character I've seen.
Posted by Superior Pariah
Member since Jun 2009
8457 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:32 am to
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However, there were few, if any, classic lines


You didn't like when Claudia Cardinale yelled "I said print station!"

I love that line.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98125 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:59 am to
I'm not a fan of spaghetti westerns in general, tbh.
Posted by auyushu
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Member since Jan 2011
8582 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 1:56 am to
quote:

I get his need for revenge against Frank, but why the hell was he attempting to help out Jill McBain? Hell, he leaves her behind after he kills Frank so it's not like he wanted to necessarily have her for his own.



You seriously don't see how him helping Jill helps him get revenge on Frank? I mean really?
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
16946 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:24 am to
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Greatest Western ever.


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