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My strategy when oil bottoms

Posted on 2/1/15 at 10:01 am
Posted by wizard of smart
Member since Feb 2009
1545 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 10:01 am
Step 1. Figure out when it is. This is critical.

Step 2. Find an etf for WTI. 1x, 2x, or 3x. 4x doesn't exist so the only logical decision here is 3x

3. Buy and hold

4. Sell in 2016. Start a Coach Guidry thread to buy seven new cars, one for each day of the week, like you always dreamed.


MT - poke holes, tell me about how the 3x etf starts over at each day, how this will lead to financial ruin, make snarky comments about how ironic my name is given this thread
Posted by kaaj24
Dallas
Member since Jan 2010
596 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 10:19 am to
Drink more, post less
Posted by wizard of smart
Member since Feb 2009
1545 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 11:02 am to
If I lived in Dallazz I would drink more. But since I dont, I decline your offer
Posted by Odinson
Asgard
Member since Apr 2014
2747 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 11:05 am to
quote:

Figure out when it is


You and the rest of the world.

quote:

This is critical.


Duh!

quote:

make snarky comments about how ironic my name is given this thread


wizard of stupidity
Posted by wizard of smart
Member since Feb 2009
1545 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 11:09 am to


Well done
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97589 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 11:27 am to
quote:

Step 1. Figure out when it is. This is critical.



Can you let me know too?
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16140 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:30 pm to
UWTI is the 3x etn. It jumped 20% Friday. I'm eyeing it up and may start building a position.

DWTI is the inverse BTW. You can make money both ways.
Posted by LSUTigers00884
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2011
1160 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 1:55 pm to
No but seriously, any recommendations on investing into energy / oil field mutual funds / etfs?

Thanks
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11316 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 1:57 pm to
I think you are seeing bottom right now...far too many rigs being stacked, pump prices in North Texas up 20 cents a gallon the last few days, refineries will be regaining capacities and I'm guessing a trading range from $55 to $65 for the remainder of 2015...assuming the Arabs can stay within the white lines, which I doubt they can
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15033 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:15 pm to
Rate my strategy for roulette: first, figure out where the ball is going to land next.
Posted by wizard of smart
Member since Feb 2009
1545 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

Rate my strategy for roulette: first, figure out where the ball is going to land next.


It sucks

Is the game played in unstable nations? Will OPEC cut routlette table production? Are there any alternative games? Does anyone know what Im talking about anymore? Are the odds of oil going up 37-1?
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:58 pm to
Step 1 got an audible chuckle on the second sentence.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 8:20 pm to
Sounds like a solid strategy. Oil will go back up. I wouldn't try to guess the bottom. Start building a position. If you don't invest more than 20 or 25% at once, then finding the bottom isn't that important.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10248 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

Step 1. Figure out when it is. This is critical.


Good one. Please don't forget to let us know when.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10248 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:23 pm to
I think it goes lower, into the low 30's before it goes higher, but I don't know.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27813 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 10:03 pm to
I was surprised at the amount of wells that require >$40 to maintain production.
Posted by Spec1
Lost but making good time
Member since Jan 2015
1983 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:49 am to
With the amount of wells being currently stacked all around the gulf south, Oil will have to start tickling up.

I think it will be a long slow increase with a couple hickups along the way.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19234 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:12 am to
are you talking about stacking rigs or shutting in well?
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Sounds like a solid strategy. Oil will go back up. I wouldn't try to guess the bottom. Start building a position. If you don't invest more than 20 or 25% at once, then finding the bottom isn't that important.



Been loading up on UWTI for a few weeks now. Been lucky so far timing the swings but waiting on a big rise whenever that may be.
Posted by white perch
the bright, happy side of hell
Member since Apr 2012
7108 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:16 pm to
I've got a similar strategy with natural gas using UGAZ and DGAZ.
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