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re: USW strike...** POSSIBLE END IN SIGHT **

Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259902 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:00 pm to
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I think that's what gets me. Personally, I have no issue with unions in general or the concept of collective bargaining. But the entitled victim mentality makes it hard to negotiate with.


Exactly how I feel.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

why does the company have to pay you $7500 as a "signing bonus" when you already are employed by them


That is their idea. They offer a signing bonus all the time on contracts.
Posted by MeatHammer09
SoLa
Member since May 2014
230 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:03 pm to
As far as I know its only the 9 sites. I havent heard of any others.
Posted by Arkla Missy
Ark-La-Miss
Member since Jan 2013
10288 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:03 pm to
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I think that's what gets me. Personally, I have no issue with unions in general or the concept of collective bargaining. But the entitled victim mentality makes it hard to negotiate with.

... And the "entitled victim mentality" makes it impossible to negotiate with.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:06 pm to
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where did I say that? Where did that come from?


Maybe I read this the wrong way.

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paying someone 100k plus a year who a year earlier was probably selling insurance on 100% commission salary, before hitting lottery getting his or her current job, isn't exactly short changing


What should their previous job have to do with compensation at their current employer?
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
83337 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:06 pm to
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So should people working in hospitals. How dare they expect people to work while others are normally sleeping.


Uhhh, a lot of nurses are unionized across the country and strike all the time.

I know a nurse that is a "scab" who travels the country and works at hospitals where the union nurses are striking. She makes very good money crossing the nurses picket lines
This post was edited on 2/1/15 at 2:08 pm
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
7713 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

I think that's what gets me. Personally, I have no issue with unions in general or the concept of collective bargaining. But the entitled victim mentality makes it hard to negotiate with.


great post, yea its business, cut out the whining, poor me entitled shite and maybe I will listen.

Also, recognize the other side of coin
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24237 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:08 pm to
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frick the unions and the retards that join.


It directly impacts those of us not in the union also.
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
7713 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:10 pm to
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What should their previous job have to do with compensation at their current employer?


it was regarding an entitled attitude, more of a personal comment.

Not regarding how employer should look at its employee
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
128950 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:12 pm to
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Uhhh, a lot of nurses are unionized across the country and strike all the time. I know a nurse that is a "scab" who travels the country and works at hospitals where the union nurses are striking. She makes very good money crossing the nurses picket lines


Yeah but they don't strike over having to work horrible hours(meaning working at night or holidays and weekends...not the amount of hours)....it's part of being a nurse in a hospital.


Not every state is unionized though. In some states you can be fired for even voicing about unions.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:13 pm to
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great post, yea its business, cut out the whining, poor me entitled shite and maybe I will listen.


It is the side they have to play to the media. they really don't have another avenue because no one wants to believe it is about safety.

Shell says they have offered contracts, but who knows what is in those contracts. Shell is playing the aloof aw shucks and moaning about oil prices like they matter. Refining cost get a lot cheaper when raw materials are cut by a third.

There is common ground and it will be found.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:14 pm to
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Yeah but they don't strike over having to work horrible hours(


That is not why they are striking now. I don't know what the shitty hours comment was about. my wife's schedule is just as shitty.
This post was edited on 2/1/15 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Spirit of Dunson
Member since Mar 2007
23111 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:15 pm to
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 because no one wants to believe it is about safety. 
I haven't seen the requests from the union side. Were there any regarding safety?
Serious question.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
83337 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:15 pm to
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they don't strike over having to work horrible hours(meaning working at night or holidays and weekends...not the amount of hours)....it's part of being a nurse in a hospital.


I don't think the plant workers are striking over that either
Posted by MeatHammer09
SoLa
Member since May 2014
230 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:16 pm to
everything happening now with this contract is national now. all local issues are agreed upon and nothing was do with any kind of money/benefits. idk where yall get the whining from bc its not from around here in SoLa. if there is a strike about money/benefits it is usually coming from the national level and not local. I for one am very thankful and appreciative of what the union offers and has done for us. the USW on the national level is where you get the money hungry people from. us here, locally, would be happy with keeping the same thing as the last contract.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167099 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:16 pm to
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I haven't seen the requests from the union side. Were there any regarding safety?
Serious question.



There were some I think but the funniest one is they essentially said it's unsafe to hire contractors. It's a thinly veiled attempt to force out contractors.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:17 pm to
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Were there any regarding safety?
Serious question.


there were some dealing with safety, mainly staffing levels that have caused some risky situations.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
128950 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:18 pm to
I think our comments got misinterpreted then.


I think the other poster was saying that plant workers act like they are the only ones with horrible hours.


I'm on the fence about nursing unions...some of the stuff they do is great. They came out in full force during the whole Ebola scare a few months ago and put a lot of pressure on hospitals to have proper safety gear to prevent staff from being exposed....and it worked.
Posted by MeatHammer09
SoLa
Member since May 2014
230 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:18 pm to
i dont think so. if its a safety concern its probably dealt with at the local level. not all facilities have the same "safety" standards.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:19 pm to
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There were some I think but the funniest one is they essentially said it's unsafe to hire contractors. It's a thinly veiled attempt to force out contractors.


Yeah, no doubt they want to do away with contractors. They aren't going anywhere though.

It sort of spawns from companies claiming there are no qualified workers to hire, but won't hire the contractors already doing the work.

For example, a contractor is perfectly fine to perform the job, but is considered inexperienced when they apply for a union advertised job.
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