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re: Article: The last days of football
Posted on 1/31/15 at 5:41 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 1/31/15 at 5:41 pm to Jim Rockford
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Football won't go away in the forseeable future, but it could become like boxing, a slightly disreputable niche sport that civilized people don't pay attention to.
So basically pro football in the 30's, 40's & part of the 50's?
Posted on 1/31/15 at 5:41 pm to Jim Rockford
Boxing was hurt by the end of heavyweights with personality as much as anything else.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 7:32 pm to jonboy
People will not stop watching the NFL. No matter what idiotic stuff they implement. Never.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 7:38 pm to Jim Rockford
If he's talking strictly NFL then it's been on such a high that at some point I think it has to (or had to if it already happened) reached a zenith and begin a slope down.
That is not to say that any decline will be precipitous or even steady though. Even when you pass the longest day of sunlight of the year you still have a lot of long days ahead of you before the long nights arrive.
I always did kind of wonder about a business model that relied to some extent on holding cities and states hostage for "concessions" with the threat of moving away. Just seemed like that is not sustainable in the long term. I could be wrong though. There may be enough demand among cities to keep that going.
I kind of lost interest in the NFL a while back so I might not be the best judge. But to me the college and even high school games are more enjoyable.
That is not to say that any decline will be precipitous or even steady though. Even when you pass the longest day of sunlight of the year you still have a lot of long days ahead of you before the long nights arrive.
I always did kind of wonder about a business model that relied to some extent on holding cities and states hostage for "concessions" with the threat of moving away. Just seemed like that is not sustainable in the long term. I could be wrong though. There may be enough demand among cities to keep that going.
I kind of lost interest in the NFL a while back so I might not be the best judge. But to me the college and even high school games are more enjoyable.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 8:09 am to Dr RC
I can see a situation where research difinitively link football to CTE, Alzheimer's, dementia, etc, and big sponsors start dropping off because they don't want the negative publicity of being associated with a sport that causes brain damage.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 8:58 am to Dennis ODell
Leather helments and softer shoulder pads would end all this concussion business.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:35 am to jonboy
The author's points are all accurate and it's a well written article. The degree to which he makes them relevant may be slightly off, and he managed to neglect the single biggest talking point that keeps the NFL relevant, Fantasy Football. I appreciate how he didn't take much time on the "hot button" topics. The NFL is playing with fire. Should Soccer, Basketball, or CFB ever overtake them in popularity, I suspect the decline will be much quicker than anticipated. They have such a massive lead though that it's hard to imagine it happening anytime soon.
I actually don't blame the owners for Goodell. It's hard to imagine the NFL ever being more popular than it is now. The owners want to cash in while the iron's hot? Great. But these are actions of men that show they believe their sport has reached it's peak.
I actually don't blame the owners for Goodell. It's hard to imagine the NFL ever being more popular than it is now. The owners want to cash in while the iron's hot? Great. But these are actions of men that show they believe their sport has reached it's peak.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:52 am to sicboy
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People will not stop watching the NFL. No matter what idiotic stuff they implement. Never.
I have a feeling that we've only seen the tip of the iceberg with the concussion stuff.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 11:33 am to ShamelessPel
people know NFL and college football are the same sport, right?
i'll say this. there maybe needs to be a new paradigm for NFL careers if we want guys to get out of the game with their health intact... even the best players will have to want to get out after 2 or 3 years
i'll say this. there maybe needs to be a new paradigm for NFL careers if we want guys to get out of the game with their health intact... even the best players will have to want to get out after 2 or 3 years
Posted on 2/1/15 at 11:59 am to VADawg
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I have a feeling that we've only seen the tip of the iceberg with the concussion stuff.
Me too. If the sport is linked to brain damage it's going to be hard to maintain mainstream popularity and keep the participation levels up.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:11 pm to glassman
Glass, I don't dispute that soccer is more popular, but I think you are way underestimating worldwide viewership of the Super Bowl.
I'm off to Google...
ETA: you're right, and 200 million may be generous.
I'm off to Google...
ETA: you're right, and 200 million may be generous.
This post was edited on 2/1/15 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:36 pm to Dennis ODell
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Me too. If the sport is linked to brain damage it's going to be hard to maintain mainstream popularity and keep the participation levels up.
If this is true, those soccer fans need to watch out because soccer has tons of concussions, among other major injuries, as well.
Truth is, football won't go away anytime soon, especially because of the demographics of who are actually playing the sport. It has never been an upper class game.
Lastly, in about 30 years we will probably see rules of the sport that will help curb injuries, but the concept of 11 vs 11 and downs/etc will always be in place despite how much closer football becomes to looking like rugby. It's American, and we will hold on to that even when the equipment we wear looks different.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:37 pm to chalmetteowl
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that's bullshite watch when mayweather and pacquiao fight. EVERYONE will be talking about it
You weren't around during the late 70's early 80's I guess? The personalities in the ring and the entertainment - never mid that it was on free tv didn't hurt either
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:40 pm to ironsides
quote:yeah they need more exposure for the mid-level fighters... the stars will always be made and be okay
You weren't around during the late 70's early 80's I guess? The personalities in the ring and the entertainment - never mid that it was on free tv didn't hurt either
Posted on 2/1/15 at 2:10 pm to GhostofJackson
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especially because of the demographics of who are actually playing the sport. It has never been an upper class game.
IMO, the "demographics" are playing football for the fame and fortune, not so much for their love of the game. If big time sponsors decide they don't want to be associated with a game that causes brain damage and pull their money, it could make football a lot less lucrative for players, owners, and everyone in between. Also, I disagree that football is only a middle and lower class sport. Plenty of upper class people let their kids play high school ball, most of them aren't talented enough to make it to the NFL. That too will change if more links are made between football and brain damage.
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