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re: Jenner "transformation" allegedly to be made into reality show

Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by hsfolk
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:28 pm to


surprised Kourtney Kardashian didn't end up with a black baby daddy
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:30 pm to
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See, I accept that truly gay people are born that way.
Human sexuality is a complex mixture of biology and psychology. Saying someone is born with certain sexual preferences is an over simplification.

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I'm not ready to accept, yet, that somehow people can be born with the wrong sex.
Again, there is a strong psychological component to human sexuality. People want to simplify it to "born this way" for political reasons or as a way to express a lack of the ability to consciously change a preference or desire.

This post was edited on 1/31/15 at 4:32 pm
Posted by hsfolk
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:34 pm to
so Bruce is attracted to men or women?
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:35 pm to
Yes
Posted by hsfolk
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:35 pm to
you didn't answer my question
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:36 pm to
If there is one modern development, as an older guy, that I really fricking hate, it is the existence of being famous for being famous.

I mean, I used to think a lot of celebrities 3 decades ago were fricked up too, but at least then, I had a fricking clue why people were following them!!!!
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:39 pm to
I have a family friend, in his 60s, who finally divorced his wife and is now living with a "roommate". He came out as gay to his close family and friends, but to the world and because he's a c-suite exec he's just divorced. He's always known he was gay and always wanted a man. But that generation knew that you had to get married and have kids to "get ahead in life." So he buried his his true nature. His kids havr been very supportive. He said if he was a 30 year old male today he could have been a gay guy and not have to put up a charade.
Posted by hsfolk
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:41 pm to
there's a big difference from being gay to changing ones sex
Posted by RedRifle
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:44 pm to
My point is people are saying " wow look at Bruce the Olympic athlete what happened to that guy" and don't realize he may have been Bruce the woman trapped in a man's body even back then when he seemed to be such an alpha male.
Posted by mattz1122
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:45 pm to
He's so brave.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:46 pm to
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I'm not ready to accept, yet, that somehow people can be born with the wrong sex.
The American Psychological Association and all of their peers were absolutely bludgeoned into silliness.

The bottom line is that ALL of these things are pure and simple mental illnesses and only because most people have been bludgeoned into thinking they're bigots for saying it do people pretend otherwise.

If a person said, "I'm not really a man, I'm a dog trapped in a man's body", you'd all know he was nuts.

Thinking you are what your body is NOT is BY frickING DEFINITION a mental defect. It's one you can live with. I don't propose jailing people for it or anything else.

But, it is what it is. They're nuts. It's just one of those "nuts" things that you can be but still navigate life.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:49 pm to
If Bruce Jenner does indeed become a female, I wonder who will be the first man to have sex with her?
Posted by hsfolk
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:51 pm to
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She's so brave.


FIFY
Posted by hsfolk
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:52 pm to
maybe she will be a lesbian?
Posted by mattz1122
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:53 pm to
I also love the irony of how Bruce is a staunch conservative.
This post was edited on 1/31/15 at 4:54 pm
Posted by hsfolk
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:57 pm to
wonder if she'll still be welcomed in the Republican circles?
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:57 pm to
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I also love the irony of how Bruce is a staunch conservative.

Why is that ironic? Maybe he's conservative because he believes in smaller federal govt and is against massive govt bureaucracies? Maybe he's a "small c" conservative, not a religious one.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 4:58 pm to
UPVOTE
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 5:06 pm to
Just another conservative with a "mental disorder," am I right?
Posted by Ole Geauxt
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 5:20 pm to
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even back then when he seemed to be such an alpha male.


But, he was also very "prissy" back then. I remember watching the live interviews and even thinking that he sure was concerned about his outfit and hair. We all wore tight and short shorts in the 70's, but he actually cared about that stuff.
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