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re: Fresh Ice! NHL Season-Long Thread, Part 2
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:22 pm to TXGunslinger10
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:22 pm to TXGunslinger10
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 7:19 pm to sms151t
Habs acquire Torrey Mitchell from Buffalo for Jack Nevins and a 2016 7th rounder.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 7:38 pm to TXGunslinger10
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:17 pm to Fat Bastard
I don't think the Habs roster is all that great. Their FenClose is right at about 50%, and clustered with teams like the Sharks, Canes, and Panthers. Their 171 goals scored ranks in the bottom half of the league, and it's the same level as the Leafs and Sens.
What they have is the best goalie on earth right now. They have a team 93.3% save percentage at 5 on 5, well ahead of the rest of the league. Price is essentially single handedly turning the Habs from a pretty good playoff team into the best team in the East. Now, that can last, but his overall save percentage is 8 points better than the #2 goalie. He is playing like Roy on his best day right now. Can that last?
What they have is the best goalie on earth right now. They have a team 93.3% save percentage at 5 on 5, well ahead of the rest of the league. Price is essentially single handedly turning the Habs from a pretty good playoff team into the best team in the East. Now, that can last, but his overall save percentage is 8 points better than the #2 goalie. He is playing like Roy on his best day right now. Can that last?
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:21 pm to Baloo
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Their FenClose is right at about 50%, and clustered with teams like the Sharks, Canes, and Panthers. Their 171 goals scored ranks in the bottom half of the league, and it's the same level as the Leafs and Sens.
Washington is right there too .1 ahead of Florida, so do you not like the Caps team either?
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:29 pm to UltimateHog
Washington's FenClose is 51.8%. That's not earth shattering, as you'd like it to be above 52% to be a Cup contender usually, but it's close enough, given that it's 4th in the Eastern conference. all of the awesome possession teams other than the Isles and Bolts are out West.
The Habs are at 50.6%, and rank 8th in the East.
The Habs are at 50.6%, and rank 8th in the East.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:39 pm to Baloo
So you actually like that team over the Habs? Stats are not kind to the Caps either. Bottom half in most.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:42 pm to Baloo
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I don't think the Habs roster is all that great. Their FenClose is right at about 50%, and clustered with teams like the Sharks, Canes, and Panthers. Their 171 goals scored ranks in the bottom half of the league, and it's the same level as the Leafs and Sens.
What they have is the best goalie on earth right now. They have a team 93.3% save percentage at 5 on 5, well ahead of the rest of the league. Price is essentially single handedly turning the Habs from a pretty good playoff team into the best team in the East. Now, that can last, but his overall save percentage is 8 points better than the #2 goalie. He is playing like Roy on his best day right now. Can that last?
I'll tell you how it will last. We're faster skaters than everybody else. You can make up for a lot with speed
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:47 pm to UltimateHog
Yes. It's not perfect, obviously. The 2nd line is a giant black hole right now, and even with its sheltered minutes, it can't drive possession or create many chances. That's an obviously large problem.
But the Caps have two players currently tied for the NHL lead in points scored. So the top line is arguably the most productive in hockey right now, regardless of who the other wing is. The 3rd line is a legit shutdown line, and the team has so much depth that Brooks f'n Laich is playing on the 4th line right now.
They also have one of the best bluelines in the league. That top 6 is pretty fantastic, and last night, the 3rd pair (which has MIKE GREEN on it), played less than 2 minutes less than the top pair. They can just roll lines at you. Most teams' lean heavily on their top pair, while the Caps can go super deep and use their pairings based on matchups.
And Holtby is .001 away from being top 5 in every major goalie stat category. He's not Price or Rinne, but he's definitely that second tier of goalie that can not only win a Cup, but help you get there.
Yeah, I like this team a lot. They just need to find the right mix of line combos to maximize the talent. But, the East is a total crapshoot. Caps could win the East, or lose in the 1st round. Same as every other playoff team in the East.
But the Caps have two players currently tied for the NHL lead in points scored. So the top line is arguably the most productive in hockey right now, regardless of who the other wing is. The 3rd line is a legit shutdown line, and the team has so much depth that Brooks f'n Laich is playing on the 4th line right now.
They also have one of the best bluelines in the league. That top 6 is pretty fantastic, and last night, the 3rd pair (which has MIKE GREEN on it), played less than 2 minutes less than the top pair. They can just roll lines at you. Most teams' lean heavily on their top pair, while the Caps can go super deep and use their pairings based on matchups.
And Holtby is .001 away from being top 5 in every major goalie stat category. He's not Price or Rinne, but he's definitely that second tier of goalie that can not only win a Cup, but help you get there.
Yeah, I like this team a lot. They just need to find the right mix of line combos to maximize the talent. But, the East is a total crapshoot. Caps could win the East, or lose in the 1st round. Same as every other playoff team in the East.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:53 pm to Baloo
You changed the question, so I'll answer that one. No, I wouldn't trade rosters with the Habs. I think every playoff team in the East is pretty much even except maybe the Rangers. I'd trade rosters with them.
but I also don't expect a Habs fan to want to trade rosters with the Caps. Dance with what brung ya. If we're all equal quality, stick with what you know. The Bolts also have a great roster, but lack a great goalie. That's a pretty important piece to be missing.
but I also don't expect a Habs fan to want to trade rosters with the Caps. Dance with what brung ya. If we're all equal quality, stick with what you know. The Bolts also have a great roster, but lack a great goalie. That's a pretty important piece to be missing.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:56 pm to Baloo
I like Bishop, but everyone knew his season last year was not sustainable. Still, 6'7" goalies are pretty awesome.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:27 pm to TXGunslinger10
It's not all price either. Last I checked he had a great defense in front of him as well. Check the stats. Hell our d was number 1 in the league a week or so ago.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:31 pm to Baloo
Who here said our roster was great??
Wins is all that matters and right now that puts us first in the east!!
The east is a bitch and some good teams will be knocked out in the first round. Fact!!!!
Wins is all that matters and right now that puts us first in the east!!
The east is a bitch and some good teams will be knocked out in the first round. Fact!!!!
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:38 pm to Fat Bastard
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It's not all price either. Last I checked he had a great defense in front of him as well. Check the stats.
The Habs rank 22nd in the NHL in shots on goal allowed/game.
The Habs rank 25th in the NHL in total shots allowed/game.
The Habs ranked 1st in the NHL in goals allowed/game.
Yeah, it is pretty much all Price. He's the MVP.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:48 pm to Fat Bastard
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The east is a bitch and some good teams will be knocked out in the first round. Fact!!!!
This.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 10:41 pm to Baloo
the tops in the league is 25.5 SAPG by a shitty devil team.
worst is basically 36(35.9) we are 31. washington is 33.5! lol.
meh. middle of the pack actual numbers wise for the habs. you make it out as if we are 22nd in the league so we are horrible on D! 5 shots more per game? meh. big deal. It doesn't mean our defense sucks because they give up 5 more shots a game than the devils. just like it doesn't mean the caps D sucks either when they have shot blockers helping holtby or the fact they give up 33.5 shots against per game. blocked shots help prevent goals. which helps lower GAA. These goalies could be facing even more shots against had these defenses not helped with blocks!
we are #4 in the league in penalty killing. You think that's all price? If you watch any habs games you would see you are wrong. I've seen where the PP cannot even get a shot off thanks to the PK. ask bunk moreland. lol.
We have shot blockers but we are not blocking as much as we used to. Washington has some very good shot blockers in carlson and orpik and alzner that definitely boosts holtbys stats. It's part of the game.
also, do not forget QUALITY OF SHOTS! you have to actually watch games to understand this and not just look at stats on ESPN. you can fire away 50-60 crappy shots from way outside on the perimeter and it means nothing. The D may clog the inside lanes and force those shots because it's what they want, low percentage from far away. I've seen it happen to the caps offense before. as a matter of fact my habs did that to them in the 2010 playoffs.
worst is basically 36(35.9) we are 31. washington is 33.5! lol.
meh. middle of the pack actual numbers wise for the habs. you make it out as if we are 22nd in the league so we are horrible on D! 5 shots more per game? meh. big deal. It doesn't mean our defense sucks because they give up 5 more shots a game than the devils. just like it doesn't mean the caps D sucks either when they have shot blockers helping holtby or the fact they give up 33.5 shots against per game. blocked shots help prevent goals. which helps lower GAA. These goalies could be facing even more shots against had these defenses not helped with blocks!
we are #4 in the league in penalty killing. You think that's all price? If you watch any habs games you would see you are wrong. I've seen where the PP cannot even get a shot off thanks to the PK. ask bunk moreland. lol.
We have shot blockers but we are not blocking as much as we used to. Washington has some very good shot blockers in carlson and orpik and alzner that definitely boosts holtbys stats. It's part of the game.
also, do not forget QUALITY OF SHOTS! you have to actually watch games to understand this and not just look at stats on ESPN. you can fire away 50-60 crappy shots from way outside on the perimeter and it means nothing. The D may clog the inside lanes and force those shots because it's what they want, low percentage from far away. I've seen it happen to the caps offense before. as a matter of fact my habs did that to them in the 2010 playoffs.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 3/2/15 at 10:42 pm to Fat Bastard
Way to show up tonight boys 
Posted on 3/2/15 at 10:46 pm to TXGunslinger10
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Way to show up tonight boys
yep. bad start to road trip. jet lag? CMT looked pissed off earlier. oh well. shake it off and get ready for next game.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:10 pm to Baloo
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I think every playoff team in the East is pretty much even except maybe the Rangers. I'd trade rosters with them.
[Checks Rangers roster, still sees Tanner Glass, but bookmarks post anyways]
Rags beat America's team tonight. On fire right now hope it's not a case of peaking too early.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 7:57 am to Fat Bastard
That was bad last night the monthly lets just pee on our leg day.
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