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re: Should I be offended by this offer from my financial advisor?
Posted on 1/28/15 at 5:09 pm to Maderan
Posted on 1/28/15 at 5:09 pm to Maderan
Thanks, Maderan. I may have misspoken or not been clear, but he IS an asset based advisor, i.e. he charges a percentage (1%/yr) of my total account balance. Also, he won't advise me to purchase insurance, as I am near retirement, divorced, and my children are grown and independent.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 6:25 pm to TXTigerDad
I generally charge my clients 1%-1.25% of asset base. I will gladly look at their options in their 401(k) and give them some ideas for free. I will also help them refinance their home and find a lawyer for wills and trusts. Basically, most financial things are covered in the asset fee.
ETA: I also get them good deals on cars of certain makes.
ETA: I also get them good deals on cars of certain makes.
This post was edited on 1/29/15 at 6:28 am
Posted on 1/28/15 at 6:42 pm to TXTigerDad
so what does he do for the $4000?
Posted on 1/28/15 at 8:16 pm to TXTigerDad
I don't have enough details to know whether the extra $500 is reasonable or not. As others have noted, it may or may not take awhile depending on how thorough a job he does. For example, he should at least glance at each fund's holdings in the prospectuses, which means he has to find and download them too. If he does it right and also puts in the time to see how it intertwines with your IRA I could easily see him spending a couple of hours if not more.
So it depends. Either way, no need to get offended, just say "no" if you think it's too high.
So it depends. Either way, no need to get offended, just say "no" if you think it's too high.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 8:37 pm to foshizzle
Do the same thing you would do with any purchase....shop around.
This guy needs to go....I know it's hard to leave someone you've trusted for a while, but he is banking on that.
Think about it please. This guy is "supposedly" watching out for your retirement income, yet has 0 idea what's in your 401??
He should personally feel stupid for acting like he knows your financial picture.
This guy needs to go....I know it's hard to leave someone you've trusted for a while, but he is banking on that.
Think about it please. This guy is "supposedly" watching out for your retirement income, yet has 0 idea what's in your 401??
He should personally feel stupid for acting like he knows your financial picture.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 8:38 pm to GeeOH
ps...you should get married and divorced again...cut your tax burden in half....LOL
Posted on 1/28/15 at 8:40 pm to TXTigerDad
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don't think it would take him more than 30 minutes to do the analysis, as we have a limited number of choices and he could use a similar allocation to the one he employs for me in my IRA.
Yep. Should be part of what he is already doing.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:10 pm to TXTigerDad
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for him to do a retirement forecast and analysis, for which I'm meeting him this Friday.
This does change things in my mind. I don't know how he could do that without knowledge of your 401K unless your 401k is such a minor part of your retirement plan that it's not really worth it.
Curious... what brought you to this adviser in the first place? Is this your first instance of being unhappy with him?
For what you are paying him... I think you need to have absolute confidence in him and that he is doing the best for you. It seems like that may have been broken. Therefore, you might want to consider checking around for a new guy. No harm in getting some referrals and getting a couple of free lunches.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 12:10 am to LSUFanHouston
OP - switch the Janky. Tell him you accept his 1% fee.
He gives sound, practical advice on this board and I would imagine his professional persona is just as good.
He gives sound, practical advice on this board and I would imagine his professional persona is just as good.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 6:31 am to matthew25
. I just read my post from last night and changed the wording. I did not mean for it to sound like it did.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 2:43 pm to LSUFanHouston
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If you are one of my smaller clients... I would probably charge.
If you were my advisor I'd probably leave you.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 3:21 pm to dagrippa
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If you were my advisor I'd probably leave you.
If you were one of my smaller clients, who asked for a bunch of free stuff, I would think you did not value my time or my talent, and I would not be sad to see you leave.
Sorry. Ask any professional adviser in law, accounting, finance, etc, and they will tell you that the smallest, cheapest clients almost always take up a disproportionate amount of time and stress.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 3:24 pm to LSUFanHouston
It's the 80-20 rule.
Also, the smaller accounts generally get charged more anyway.
Also, the smaller accounts generally get charged more anyway.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 3:48 pm to TXTigerDad
Time to shop for a new advisor.
As many have already said, I am shocked this advisor is giving you advice on funds without taking in account your existing 401K plans.
How long have you been with this advisor?
As many have already said, I am shocked this advisor is giving you advice on funds without taking in account your existing 401K plans.
How long have you been with this advisor?
Posted on 1/29/15 at 3:58 pm to TXTigerDad
$4,000 fixed fee, how does that work out as a percentage of assets under management? If your advisor's money is guaranteed, then what incentive does he have to actively manage your account to achieve your objectives? Doing well for you will not increase his fees, nor will he suffer if your portfolio does poorly.
As for reviewing your 401(k) holdings, I fail to see how he can pretend he is providing you quality advice about your retirement without taking the assets and investments in your 401(k) into consideration.
As for reviewing your 401(k) holdings, I fail to see how he can pretend he is providing you quality advice about your retirement without taking the assets and investments in your 401(k) into consideration.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 10:27 am to Jonas
He knows the balance in my 401K but that's all. I've been with him for 8 years, but probably not much longer.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 10:28 am to Poodlebrain
I probably wasn't clear; he charges me 1% of the total value of my account, so he does have incentive to increase its value.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 11:24 am to TXTigerDad
That dude is fricking you. My broker buddy advised me on 401k choices in about 3 minutes for free. He has my Ira too.
I'd pull my account and take it elsewhere.
I'd pull my account and take it elsewhere.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 12:15 pm to TXTigerDad
Honestly I can see the point on each side of the argument here. 1% fee is very competitive in the field. If you have a massive amount in your 401k then I could see this taking a good bit of time to do research and it would the charge. However if it's something that's a small part of your portfolio then it's unreasonable. The decision is ultimately yours OP. If you feel the FA is doing a good job then listen to him.
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