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re: 29 years ago today: Space Shuttle Challenger exploded

Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:45 am to
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:45 am to
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:47 am to
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yeah, we all thought the same thing... we just didn't realize how "wrong" it had gone.

And, it was dumb coincidence that I even saw it. I was 18 and so, I wasn't exactly keeping track of when it was going to launch. I was getting off work and in the parking lot when I saw the trail heading up perfectly fine. So, I stopped for a minute to watch. Then, poof.

I mean, if I walk out 90 second later, it's already happened. 90 second earlier, I'm probably in my car not even noticing it.

I just timed it perfectly to see it happen.
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:49 am to
I was in Korea, and the alert sirens sounded not long after the explosion. I didn't find out the cause of the alert until several hours later.
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:52 am to
I was at home shipping school that day and was watching it on TV with a friend. My dad, who worked in communications, was actually at Marshall in Huntsville that day. His company was doing contract work for NASA. He has told me the story several times about how that place basically went on lock down within 1/2 an hour. There had been a miniature cross section of a booster in one hangar showing the internal configuration of the booster on display. Of course, there was a buzz all around the campus among NASA employees as well as outside contractors about what occurred. About 3 days after the explosion, an engineer my dad was friendly with told him "I can tell you exactly what I think happened" and proceeded to draw out a sketch of a boosters sections on a piece of copy paper. He told dad then that it was likely an O-Ring issue but had to draw it out because dad wasn't familiar with the booster anatomy. He also told dad that day to go to the hangar where the mini version was at to get a better idea. Dad walked over a bit later and he said that model had been taken down already and that the entire campus had a feel of martial law imposed for the remaining 3 weeks he was there. Hush, hush. Nobody was saying a word to outsiders about the explosion and clearance to previously non-restricted areas was shut down unless you had an escort. He did not have the foresight to keep the sketch that engineer gave him just 3 days after the explosion and kicks himself even today for not doing so as it really would have been a neat thing to have.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:53 am to
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The most heartbreaking footage is of the one of Christa's parents watching the launch and the camera catching them seeing the explosion and realizing what really happened.

Yeah, it's terrible. So much going on and every time they showed the parents they just looked so helpless and confused.

There's another video with the teacher who was the backup to CM, and she was watching the launch and all excited as they flew by. She went from waving and stuff to praying.

Such a sad situation all around. I'm trying to remember if we talked about it as a class after it happened or if we were given busy work like someone else had mentioned. I'm sure we eventaully did discuss it, but I don't remember any of that. I do remember the launch/explosion vividly though.



ETA: Found the footage: LINK

Backup teacher was Barbara Morgan. I can't imagine the surreal feelings she had that day.
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 10:54 am
Posted by Bankshot
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:01 am to
I was in the 4th grade. If my memory is correct, the launch had already been scrubbed before. My dad always watched GMA in the mornings and I remember hearing that morning that they were going to launch. At school we had our scheduled library time about 10 to 15 minutes after the launch and that's when we found about the explosion. We were in shock to say the least. They later named the planetarium in Jackson, MS for one of the astronauts.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:03 am to
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ChineseBandit58
Thanks for sharing your awesome stories!
Posted by LSUTygerFan
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:05 am to
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And, it was dumb coincidence that I even saw it.


yeah, honestly i probably would have missed it as well. I worked overnight but was working overtime that day. Would normally have been asleep at that time.
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:07 am to
I saw a Youtube video of the families of the astronauts watching the launch.

It's surreal how long it took them to register what had just happened. They were kind of just staring, confused. It was a couple of minutes before anyone starting freaking out. The incident was that shocking.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:07 am to
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My sister was also born that day in 1986.


Pics?


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oh, nevermind.







Posted by LSUTygerFan
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:10 am to
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It was a couple of minutes before anyone starting freaking out.



the words "vehicle explosion" are burned into my memory.
Posted by sneakytiger
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:35 am to
Chinesebandit, don't want to out either of us too much, but did you run in the same circle as a Frank N? He was an engineer from MS and a NASA lifer about your age.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:52 am to
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Frank N

Doesn't ring a bell. The name Frank has some resonance but I cannot place a face or last name with it. I worked with the Flight Crew Operations section. Was he NASA or a contractor?

I have always been bad with names, and for the past couple of years my memory has taken a severe nosedive. I can remember faces and situations, but I cannot place names with the faces :bang head:

In my last assignment I worked with Phil Shaffer - one of the giants of the NASA space scientists, both physically and mentally - who was a close associate of John Aaron, the best flight controller of all time. The Frank I am thinking of worked closely with Shaffer - he was average height, small frame, maybe 170 lbs, slightly dark complexion, very quiet demeanor.
Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 12:04 pm to
I remember watching it in Kindergarten class. The teacher didn't really know what to tell us had happened.
Posted by sneakytiger
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 12:04 pm to
He was NASA, at JSC, Gemini through the shuttle era - your physical description sounds like him, but I've never known him to be quiet.

Posted by Jtigers99
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 12:14 pm to
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It's surreal how long it took them to register what had just happened. They were kind of just staring, confused. It was a couple of minutes before anyone starting freaking out. The incident was that shocking.

That's also because people weren't sure if that was supposed to happen or not. As dumb as it sounds now. The shuttle program was still pretty young and a lot of them hadn't seen a launch before.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 2:15 pm to
I'm now on my phone. Be gone til tomorrow. The Frank I recall said about a dozen words a day. But they were important words.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 2:27 pm to
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What is even more horrifying is that the astronaut's cabin remained intact after the explosion. They were all believed to be alive when they hit the water


The evidence led experts to conclude the seven astronauts lived. They worked frantically to save themselves through the plummeting arc that would take them 2 minutes and 45 seconds to smash into the ocean.
That is when they died — after an eternity of descent.
LINK

I've heard it was a possibility they were alive prior to impact but never knew it was a probability. How awful
Posted by Tubedog13
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 2:51 pm to
Educate me a little if I'm way off....but I've always thought the explosion should've been bigger. With that huge tank full of fuel it seems there would have been a bigger explosion with more fire. Excuse my ignorance...
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 3:30 pm to
I think the big fuel would have been empty or near empty at that point. Possibly even jettisoned already.

Checked wiki: SRBs were jettisoned before the external fuel tank.
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 3:33 pm
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