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MB EDM Fans - What's the general consesus here re: Brian "BT" Transeau?
Posted by GFunk on 1/26/15 at 3:01 pm00
Perhaps this is best asked as a two-part question:
Who do you think are the best EDM artists today and where does BT rank in comparison?
Who do you think are the best EDM artists today and where does BT rank in comparison?
re: MB EDM Fans - What's the general consesus here re: Brian "BT" Transeau?Posted by StraightCashHomey21 on 1/27/15 at 1:50 am to GFunk
BT is good but he's old
Trance in general is a sub genre that will never be for the masses. Espcially in the US.
Trance in general is a sub genre that will never be for the masses. Espcially in the US.
Back in 2002ish the breaks scene was huge. As was BT!!
Have not heard his name in quite a long while.
Has BT ever done an Essential Mix?
Have not heard his name in quite a long while.
Has BT ever done an Essential Mix?
This post was edited on 1/27 at 12:39 pm
I've got most of the recordings he's ever done since the late 90's. Think he's tremendous.
He's scored several films-including Monster-and recorded the first EDM album in true 5.1 with visual videos accompanying the music inspired by the music.
He just crowdfunded a new albusm to remaster tracks and record new ones with a full orchestra. I'd say he's not all that far from trance, and far from the break scene.
I've always appreciated his musicianship and technical skill. Enjoyed most of his work.
He's scored several films-including Monster-and recorded the first EDM album in true 5.1 with visual videos accompanying the music inspired by the music.
He just crowdfunded a new albusm to remaster tracks and record new ones with a full orchestra. I'd say he's not all that far from trance, and far from the break scene.
I've always appreciated his musicianship and technical skill. Enjoyed most of his work.
I've been listening to BT since junior high / high school (I'm 27 now), and a lot of his work is incredible.
I haven't kept up with BT's work in recent years as much as I did back in the day, but if you like EDM, you have to know BT's work. I'm not sure how much of it is me getting older and moving away from the EDM genre, but a lot of his new stuff just doesn't do it for me.
That said, I view BT as an innovator in music as a whole, a top-tier EMD musician, a great producer (he did, after all, do that damn "Dirty Pop" song for NSync, and he started on some Britney Spears stuff that didn't pan out) and a talented composer who makes some great film and video game scores (listen to the "Monster" score).
On his albums:
ESCM is an incredible album. If you're into EDM, you have to give this album a chance.
Movement in Still Life is a lot of fun with a more mainstream sound, perhaps, but this one I love.
Ima is great too, and it's probably more significant than any of his other albums as far as the impact on EDM as a whole.
This Binary Universe is one you have to watch. You'll want surround sound.
I missed seeing BT live for years when he'd come through the area on rare stops because I was too young. This past year, I finally got the chance to see him in ATX.
It was at a club where most of the folks I talked with were just there for a show, rave or the opening act and seemed to generally be unaware of BT. At this show of like, 1,000 people?, he walked off stage, posed for a picture with a few attractive ladies and then went to the back immediately. As showgoers quickly cleared out, I asked the venue employees and crew if BT would come back out to perhaps sign a CD I had, and they politely told me to GTFO I was super bummed, and it seemed kinda crappy that he couldn't hang around for a bit, but I'm sure I was just over thinking it.
And that's a back-and-white difference in treating fans from the BT I grew up with. I used to frequent "The Norg," or BT-Network.org (it's a fan site no longer in operation) message boards, and back when BT was putting out a new album (I think it was Emotional Technology) he invited a handful of posters from the message board to go out to his home in L.A. to hear the album before its release. I thought that was awesome, and I have a lot of fond memories from the online friends I made in that message board community (a lot of those guys made their own EDM music, and some of it was awesome; BT would sometimes post and share old songs from his unreleased archive; BT's dad got on there to share cute stories, etc. etc.)
But, he does put on a good live show. The on-the-fly remixes (I think he calls this a "laptop symphony") is better than most EDM stuff I've seen live.
For those of you looking to get your feet wet, here's 10 of my favorites:
(all links via YouTube)
BT - Never Gonna Come Back Down
BT - Flaming June
BT - Embracing The Future (Embracing The Sunshine mix)
BT - Firewater
BT - Remember
BT - Mercury & Solace
BT - Dreaming
BT - Running Down The Way Up
BT - Godspeed
BT - Dynamic Symmetry
BT also is known for the whole "stutter edit" thing, and I think that plays into the perception I have of him as an innovator. He's always trying new, off beat things and raising the bar (like time correcting rainfall and such; saying he's "Still not a DJ" in response to some Oakenfold drama; etc.)
Then, put on this song:
BT f/ Tori Amos - Blue Skies
And read this:
(IIRC, I think she may have called him and left her initial vocals on his answering machine)
So, down to your bottom line...
I'm not sure it matters who the best EDM artists today are; BT was and is a leader in the genre. I'll go as far as to compare him to Nirvana or even the Beatles in one way: Even if you personally don't care for the music made by BT, Nirvana or the Beatles, you have to recognize and admit the significance of the music and its impact on the genres and pop culture as a whole.
I haven't kept up with BT's work in recent years as much as I did back in the day, but if you like EDM, you have to know BT's work. I'm not sure how much of it is me getting older and moving away from the EDM genre, but a lot of his new stuff just doesn't do it for me.
That said, I view BT as an innovator in music as a whole, a top-tier EMD musician, a great producer (he did, after all, do that damn "Dirty Pop" song for NSync, and he started on some Britney Spears stuff that didn't pan out) and a talented composer who makes some great film and video game scores (listen to the "Monster" score).
On his albums:
ESCM is an incredible album. If you're into EDM, you have to give this album a chance.
Movement in Still Life is a lot of fun with a more mainstream sound, perhaps, but this one I love.
Ima is great too, and it's probably more significant than any of his other albums as far as the impact on EDM as a whole.
This Binary Universe is one you have to watch. You'll want surround sound.
I missed seeing BT live for years when he'd come through the area on rare stops because I was too young. This past year, I finally got the chance to see him in ATX.
It was at a club where most of the folks I talked with were just there for a show, rave or the opening act and seemed to generally be unaware of BT. At this show of like, 1,000 people?, he walked off stage, posed for a picture with a few attractive ladies and then went to the back immediately. As showgoers quickly cleared out, I asked the venue employees and crew if BT would come back out to perhaps sign a CD I had, and they politely told me to GTFO I was super bummed, and it seemed kinda crappy that he couldn't hang around for a bit, but I'm sure I was just over thinking it.
And that's a back-and-white difference in treating fans from the BT I grew up with. I used to frequent "The Norg," or BT-Network.org (it's a fan site no longer in operation) message boards, and back when BT was putting out a new album (I think it was Emotional Technology) he invited a handful of posters from the message board to go out to his home in L.A. to hear the album before its release. I thought that was awesome, and I have a lot of fond memories from the online friends I made in that message board community (a lot of those guys made their own EDM music, and some of it was awesome; BT would sometimes post and share old songs from his unreleased archive; BT's dad got on there to share cute stories, etc. etc.)
But, he does put on a good live show. The on-the-fly remixes (I think he calls this a "laptop symphony") is better than most EDM stuff I've seen live.
For those of you looking to get your feet wet, here's 10 of my favorites:
(all links via YouTube)
BT - Never Gonna Come Back Down
BT - Flaming June
BT - Embracing The Future (Embracing The Sunshine mix)
BT - Firewater
BT - Remember
BT - Mercury & Solace
BT - Dreaming
BT - Running Down The Way Up
BT - Godspeed
BT - Dynamic Symmetry
BT also is known for the whole "stutter edit" thing, and I think that plays into the perception I have of him as an innovator. He's always trying new, off beat things and raising the bar (like time correcting rainfall and such; saying he's "Still not a DJ" in response to some Oakenfold drama; etc.)
Then, put on this song:
BT f/ Tori Amos - Blue Skies
And read this:
quote:
In the Album Notes for BT's 10 Years in the Life compilation, BT says that Tori Amos performed 15-minutes of improvisational singing over his track Divinity, which later became the vocals for Blue Skies. He says that Tori never sang the words "Blue" or "Skies" in the recording. He joined together syllables and breaths to make new words through editing.
(IIRC, I think she may have called him and left her initial vocals on his answering machine)
So, down to your bottom line...
quote:
Who do you think are the best EDM artists today and where does BT rank in comparison?
I'm not sure it matters who the best EDM artists today are; BT was and is a leader in the genre. I'll go as far as to compare him to Nirvana or even the Beatles in one way: Even if you personally don't care for the music made by BT, Nirvana or the Beatles, you have to recognize and admit the significance of the music and its impact on the genres and pop culture as a whole.
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re: MB EDM Fans - What's the general consesus here re: Brian "BT" Transeau?Posted by StraightCashHomey21 on 1/28/15 at 3:02 am to npersa1
quote:
I'm not sure it matters who the best EDM artists today are; BT was and is a leader in the genre. I'll go as far as to compare him to Nirvana or even the Beatles in one way: Even if you personally don't care for the music made by BT, Nirvana or the Beatles, you have to recognize and admit the significance of the music and its impact on the genres and pop culture as a whole.
I'd say if there was anyone right now to compares to be being a genius like BT. It would be Mat Zo and Arty.
re: MB EDM Fans - What's the general consesus here re: Brian "BT" Transeau?Posted by moon on 1/28/15 at 12:51 pm to StraightCashHomey21
I like how you said he's old
You do realize a lot of the EDM is made by older guys right? Dumbmau5 is an old raver, easily around 35 yo. Tiesto is old as Saved by the Bell. I could go on.
Age doesn't matter in the "EDM" scene really. You'll find that the producers behind the scene of some of the biggest tunes, have been doing it since the early to mid 90s.
I've met BT 2 or 3 times. Had some weird conversations with him, as he is a very intellectual person. He was always pretty cool to chat with.
His music is heads above most of what is EDM now. So much more thought and substance - but I know that most of these kids going to parties don't really give 2 shits about that. Which is why I don't really follow all of this watered down/formulaic EDM drizzle.
Am I old and jaded? Maybe so, but I also have spent half of my life producing, remixing and spinning Electronic music and I know what sounds like a formula.
You do realize a lot of the EDM is made by older guys right? Dumbmau5 is an old raver, easily around 35 yo. Tiesto is old as Saved by the Bell. I could go on.
Age doesn't matter in the "EDM" scene really. You'll find that the producers behind the scene of some of the biggest tunes, have been doing it since the early to mid 90s.
I've met BT 2 or 3 times. Had some weird conversations with him, as he is a very intellectual person. He was always pretty cool to chat with.
His music is heads above most of what is EDM now. So much more thought and substance - but I know that most of these kids going to parties don't really give 2 shits about that. Which is why I don't really follow all of this watered down/formulaic EDM drizzle.
Am I old and jaded? Maybe so, but I also have spent half of my life producing, remixing and spinning Electronic music and I know what sounds like a formula.
This post was edited on 1/28 at 12:53 pm
re: MB EDM Fans - What's the general consesus here re: Brian "BT" Transeau?Posted by StraightCashHomey21 on 1/28/15 at 2:00 pm to moon
quote:
I like how you said he's old
You do realize a lot of the EDM is made by older guys right? Dumbmau5 is an old raver, easily around 35 yo. Tiesto is old as Saved by the Bell. I could go on.
Im 30
been in the scene for over 10 years
quote:
Am I old and jaded? Maybe so, but I also have spent half of my life producing, remixing and spinning Electronic music and I know what sounds like a formula.
I really want to get some decks and just say frick it and try it.
My friends say I have some natural knowledge of when to drop beats or when they will drop when we are at a live set
This post was edited on 1/28 at 2:03 pm
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I've met BT 2 or 3 times. Had some weird conversations with him, as he is a very intellectual person. He was always pretty cool to chat with.
I'm super interested in these stories. Where'd you meet him? For what? How long did y'all talk? What made him seem intellectual, and what was weird about it?
BT was a big part of my childhood, and I really wish I'd have the chance to shake his hand and snag an autograph (though I do have a signed copy of the Monster score via pre-order back in the day).
I got into BT, admittedly, because of Movement in Still Life (1999), and he was already huge by then. ESCM (1997) was pretty popular all around, and IMA (1995) was pretty big overseas, I believe in large part because of Sasha's mentorship.
I'll look for it later, but there's a really good story I remember reading about BT being in England (?) with Sasha and going to a rave in a barn. When Sasha put on one of BT's songs (Embracing the Future/Sunshine?), BT saw the crowd dancing and getting into it.
I also need to dig back through my the old CDs I burned off my parents desktop before it died. I have a handful of (then) unreleased stuff somewhere, but they may not even be preserved anymore.
ill take a stab that moon met him in nola when he was in town for one of donnie's shows. probably state palace
straightcash, just get some. mixing is easy imo if you have an ear for the music. the equipment now is very user friendly.
straightcash, just get some. mixing is easy imo if you have an ear for the music. the equipment now is very user friendly.
re: MB EDM Fans - What's the general consesus here re: Brian "BT" Transeau?Posted by SlowFlowPro on 1/28/15 at 5:32 pm to GFunk
i'd say it's hard to rank him today just because he's more of a pioneer/innovator/legend and he's moved onto producing songs for pop stars. he's just not really into the scene now, so it's tough to compare him to current music. the scene and styles evolve so much in EDM that cross-generational comparisons are tough
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