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re: Steele's contract will be for 2 years and $1 million per year
Posted on 1/26/15 at 4:44 pm to ShortyRob
Posted on 1/26/15 at 4:44 pm to ShortyRob
Most of you are reading way too much into this.
Giving any of the assistants no more than a 2 year deal makes great sense. It doesn't tie LSU into a long term deal with an assistant. This gives Miles the flexibility to move in on someone he feels would be a serious upgrade should that guy comes available without costing a ton in buyout money.
Regarding the new guys, the chemistry might not be there so there would be no reason to have a toxic coach on staff.
It also protects the program so that if for whatever reason a new head coach comes in, the university won't be tied to big pay outs to replace them and let the new guy bring in his own staff.
It is obvious that most of you have never had hiring responsibility especially on the executive level.
Giving any of the assistants no more than a 2 year deal makes great sense. It doesn't tie LSU into a long term deal with an assistant. This gives Miles the flexibility to move in on someone he feels would be a serious upgrade should that guy comes available without costing a ton in buyout money.
Regarding the new guys, the chemistry might not be there so there would be no reason to have a toxic coach on staff.
It also protects the program so that if for whatever reason a new head coach comes in, the university won't be tied to big pay outs to replace them and let the new guy bring in his own staff.
It is obvious that most of you have never had hiring responsibility especially on the executive level.
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 4:50 pm to BillF
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I honestly think Miles is planning to retire in two years. Orgeron and Steele both have the two year deals. Chavis was offered three years with the "Miles Clause" included. LSU was willing to remove the clause if he also would sign a two year contract. I just think Les is planning to retire after the 2016 regardless.
That was the same feeling I got when the clauses first came up in the Chavis mess, except I thought he'd leave after the 2017 season.
He could stock the shelf to the brim with recruits from the huge 2016 and 2017 LA crop. Next guy that comes in has a gold mine of talent that would possibly rival Bama's.
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 1/26/15 at 4:51 pm to Gray Tiger
quote:If this weren't a departure from ALL of Miles' tenure, you'd have a point.
Most of you are reading way too much into this.
Giving any of the assistants no more than a 2 year deal makes great sense
quote:Good Lord. He just HAD the opportunity to do that. So, you're asserting he wasn't able to do that this time so that he might be able to next time? Da frick? Top dog's can demand better than that. Sheesh.
This gives Miles the flexibility to move in on someone he feels would be a serious upgrade should that guy comes available without costing a ton in buyout money.
quote:Which is what we are saying. It's a NOTICEABLE departure from the standard to this point and would appear to jibe with the concept that Miles no longer is considered a CERTAINTY long term. Hence, Alleva wants to avoid multiple payouts.
It also protects the program so that if for whatever reason a new head coach comes in
quote:Oh shut the frick up asswipe. You just articulated EVERY DAMNED POINT we already agreed existed. Literally EVERY WORD you posted is in line with the assertion that apparently, the leash has shortened.
It is obvious that most of you have never had hiring responsibility especially on the executive level.
If, until this point, you were doing longer term stuff and then you shift to shorter term, that's no accident. It's a thought out thing.
Jeebus. You act like this act hasn't been played out a thousand times in sports. When the guy with the purse strings is super happy, he's handing out long term deals to those he's happy with. When he's not, he shortens the leash.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 4:52 pm to ShortyRob
Don't forget UA owes Steele 800K until February of 2016.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 4:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
What's going on is you guys are reading way too deeply into the length of unproven assistant contracts. No new hire should get more than two years, and all assistants rarely get more than three. Also, whoever threw out that Miles is on a two year deal is flat wrong, the extension everyone was so flustered over has him under contract until 2019 with plenty of room for an extension.
While we're on the topic, people need to quit throwing around the "Miles clause" like its some condemnation. The media should be calling it what it is, a HEAD COACH clause. Up until this year it's been absolutely unheard of for assistants to be guaranteed a job if their head coach was fired. That's everywhere, not just LSU. The reason Chief's contract negotiation went south is because he wanted to be one of the first coordinators to have this standard clause stricken from his contract, and have it replaced with a buyout. LSU decided to not set that precedent. A&M was desperate enough to sign off on it, but they may even be having second thoughts or bickering over details and that's what's delaying his announcement.
While we're on the topic, people need to quit throwing around the "Miles clause" like its some condemnation. The media should be calling it what it is, a HEAD COACH clause. Up until this year it's been absolutely unheard of for assistants to be guaranteed a job if their head coach was fired. That's everywhere, not just LSU. The reason Chief's contract negotiation went south is because he wanted to be one of the first coordinators to have this standard clause stricken from his contract, and have it replaced with a buyout. LSU decided to not set that precedent. A&M was desperate enough to sign off on it, but they may even be having second thoughts or bickering over details and that's what's delaying his announcement.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 4:55 pm to Gray Tiger
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It is obvious that most of you have never had hiring responsibility especially on the executive level
Posted on 1/26/15 at 4:57 pm to geauxruston
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Chief saved his arse for years, and if you can't see that, then you don't know much about football. He lost to a team that hasn't won an SEC game in over two years. Oh, and his team was not ready to play, who does that fall o
yEAH BC Chavis is the king of saving Coaches arse, why didn't that work at Tenn? They call him 3rd and chavis for a reason. A&M burdened with him $1.67M/year LOL
Posted on 1/26/15 at 5:31 pm to ShortyRob
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If this weren't a departure from ALL of Miles' tenure, you'd have a point.
Every assistant that was hired under Miles' tenure had long term contracts? Who? How long?
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Good Lord. He just HAD the opportunity to do that. So, you're asserting he wasn't able to do that this time so that he might be able to next time? Da frick? Top dog's can demand better than that. Sheesh.
He just hired two new people. There is no guarantee that the chemistry will be there long term. If you were hiring a new department head how long of a contract would you give him? 3 years? 4? 5? 10?
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Which is what we are saying. It's a NOTICEABLE departure from the standard to this point and would appear to jibe with the concept that Miles no longer is considered a CERTAINTY long term. Hence, Alleva wants to avoid multiple payouts.
Again which of Miles' assistants were given long term contracts at their initial hire?
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Oh shut the frick up asswipe.
Thanks for the interesting and intelligent response. Just for my information, how often and how many executives have you hired?
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You just articulated EVERY DAMNED POINT we already agreed existed. Literally EVERY WORD you posted is in line with the assertion that apparently, the leash has shortened.
How long was the assistant coach leash prior to this? Who? When?
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If, until this point, you were doing longer term stuff and then you shift to shorter term, that's no accident. It's a thought out thing.
Who? When? How long? Initial or renewal?
Facts not hysteria please.
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Jeebus. You act like this act hasn't been played out a thousand times in sports. When the guy with the purse strings is super happy, he's handing out long term deals to those he's happy with. When he's not, he shortens the leash.
On initial contracts? Again proof please.
Or just buy into your Miles being fired fantasy. Fantasy seems to suit you.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 5:45 pm to geauxruston
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But for some damn reason he's too hard-headed to find that type of QB.
yeah the "Miles Men" like to use the words "hard headed" because it infers there is room for change but the fact is his 10 yr. record with QB's he signed and trained shows he is incompetent in selecting and training QB's.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 5:48 pm to Mulat
Thanks for the thread hijack attempt.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 5:49 pm to Gray Tiger
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Thanks for the thread hijack attempt.
I think it failed
Posted on 1/26/15 at 5:52 pm to Mulat
Idiot..
Posted on 1/26/15 at 5:57 pm to TigerBait2008
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Idiot..
no doubt you a "MILES MAN"
Posted on 1/26/15 at 6:22 pm to quail man
overpaid for steele
Posted on 1/26/15 at 6:25 pm to mnevils
quote:why do you think this?
overpaid for steele
Posted on 1/27/15 at 8:30 am to Gray Tiger
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It is obvious that most of you have never had hiring responsibility especially on the executive level.
THIS
Posted on 1/27/15 at 10:29 am to Gray Tiger
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It is obvious that most of you have never had hiring responsibility especially on the executive level.
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It is obvious that most of you have never had hiring responsibility especially on the executive level.
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It is obvious that most of you have never had hiring responsibility especially on the executive level.
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It is obvious that most of you have never had hiring responsibility especially on the executive level.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 11:21 am to madddoggydawg
All of the coaches should just 2 year contracts so they never get complacent. This includes Miles as well. Good for the program.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:10 pm to YouAre8Up
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All of the coaches should just 2 year contracts so they never get complacent. This includes Miles as well. Good for the program.
I can only agree with half of your statement.
Assistant coaches, yes.
Head coaches, no. You need to give the appearance of stability at that position for recruiting purposes.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:45 pm to Gray Tiger
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Most of you are reading way too much into this.
Giving any of the assistants no more than a 2 year deal makes great sense. It doesn't tie LSU into a long term deal with an assistant. This gives Miles the flexibility to move in on someone he feels would be a serious upgrade should that guy comes available without costing a ton in buyout money.
Regarding the new guys, the chemistry might not be there so there would be no reason to have a toxic coach on staff.
It also protects the program so that if for whatever reason a new head coach comes in, the university won't be tied to big pay outs to replace them and let the new guy bring in his own staff.
It is obvious that most of you have never had hiring responsibility especially on the executive level.
I concur.
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